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> By the nightfall of Sunday 30, Mr. Markus Frind sent me an email accussing us to steal his whole user database without a single proof, based on supposed infor

> By the nightfall of Sunday 30, Mr. Markus Frind sent me an email accussing us to steal his whole user database without a single proof, based on supposed information that "20 employees of him told him. This fellow is either a fool or a terrible liar. If he didn't take the data then he would have said "I didn't steal the data". He instead accuses Markus of a lack of proof.

bad_user 16y ago
Lack of proof == credible, since the burden of proof is on the accuser "I didn't steal the data" == my word against yours
- jcampbell1 16y ago
  There is no burden of proof in the court of public opinion. There is no 5th Amendment either. Imagine this scenario, your boss says to you: "20 of our employees are telling me you piss on the toilet seats." You respond, "You have no proof". Good luck with that.
  - bad_user 16y ago
    there is no burden of proof in the court of public opinion Except that article by Markus Frind walks a fine line between libel and opinion. And you can get your ass sued to stratosphere and lose if you fail to produce reasonable proof when making public accusations.
    - jcampbell1 16y ago
      I agree with you. Defamation / libel laws are far more strict in Canada than in the US. This is clearly going to interfere with Chris Russo's ability to earn a living as a security researcher. I have a feeling he is going to get paid to go away at some point.
- chc 16y ago
  So then you look at whose word seems more reliable. It would be very weird if all of Markus' employees plus one of his competitors made this crap up. It would be much less so if Russo were trying to avoid the repercussions of his actions.
lallysingh 16y ago
... unless "lack of proof" is a common phrase in his native language. He may of meant something closer to "has no basis" for all we know. Nuances shouldn't be analyzed with English this bad.

bad_user 16y ago

Lack of proof == credible, since the burden of proof is on the accuser "I didn't steal the data" == my word against yours

jcampbell1 16y ago
There is no burden of proof in the court of public opinion. There is no 5th Amendment either. Imagine this scenario, your boss says to you: "20 of our employees are telling me you piss on the toilet seats." You respond, "You have no proof". Good luck with that.
- bad_user 16y ago
  there is no burden of proof in the court of public opinion Except that article by Markus Frind walks a fine line between libel and opinion. And you can get your ass sued to stratosphere and lose if you fail to produce reasonable proof when making public accusations.
  - jcampbell1 16y ago
    I agree with you. Defamation / libel laws are far more strict in Canada than in the US. This is clearly going to interfere with Chris Russo's ability to earn a living as a security researcher. I have a feeling he is going to get paid to go away at some point.
chc 16y ago
So then you look at whose word seems more reliable. It would be very weird if all of Markus' employees plus one of his competitors made this crap up. It would be much less so if Russo were trying to avoid the repercussions of his actions.

lallysingh 16y ago

... unless "lack of proof" is a common phrase in his native language. He may of meant something closer to "has no basis" for all we know. Nuances shouldn't be analyzed with English this bad.