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Theoretically, sure, but in practice it's not safer: - Law Enforcement has been getting better at tracing and taking down markets, meaning the reputation syste

Theoretically, sure, but in practice it's not safer: - Law Enforcement has been getting better at tracing and taking down markets, meaning the reputation systems keep getting reset and the authentic dealers are being arrested. Markets will get taken over by law enforcement and honeypotted, with BTC transactions being traced. - Dealers and scammers have multiple aliases, sometimes even in the same market. One common strategy is to sell high quality product until a modest reputation is built on one alias, and then to 'cash out' by switching to cut junk or getting people to finalize escrow early and just not deliver. Wash, rinse, repeat with multiple aliases in parallel. It's so common it's called the exit scam. - I've also seen firsthand some people get threats from dealers on tor forums, because they left negative reviews. Keep in mind the dealer has an idea where you live, but you have no idea who they are. You also don't know if the dealer has another alias that is going to cut your product with fentanyl, RCs, or rat poison next time because they recognize your delivery address.

AshwinDurairaj 7y ago
They're just some risks, we could also say: - Local drug dealer knows where you live and cut /threaten you - Local drug dealer can find out a lot about you, and mess with your job or family etc - Local drug dealers often always have cut or non pure 'product' - Local drug dealers from what I've read and seen, are much more likely to fuck you over than drug dealers on DNMs
- bduerst 7y ago
  The point here is that in Local vs. Darkweb, you still have means of having a way to identify the dealer when you buy face to face, or know them through a friend of a friend. Darkweb you have no idea.
- buttcoinslol 7y ago
  Why would a drug dealer want to inflict violence on you????
trenning 7y ago
Killing your cash flow is usually not a good practice. People are more likely to take your money and fuck off.
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tempsy 7y ago
Best practices: -Use VPN -Use a PO Box and not your home address -Use Monero and not BTC -Buy from sellers that ship quickly and check recent reviews in the last week or so -On the point about reputation gaming, you could use to you advantage by buying from a newer seller with a few good reviews knowing they are highly incentivized to ship quickly high quality product to get your review.
- bduerst 7y ago
  I agree 110%, but there are still issues: - VPNs are not perfect. IIRC Wall Street Market was busted in part using an exploit on the admin's VPN. - You need to use your real name and ID when renting a PO Box, and most dealers require you to share the full name for delivery to a PO Box, since that increases the odds of a successful delivery. The only workaround here is to register an LLC and use that company name for the PO box. - Last I checked, most markets still do not allow Monero. Empire market had a "bug" but that caused everyone to lose their monero, and they haven't re-enabled Monero last time I checked, effectively forcing everyone to use BTC. - Fake reviews are easy. If you buy from a newer seller you run the increased risk of a being scammed or getting harmful product. Luckily dealers are lazy though and will make all their fake reviews at once.
  - 0xdeadb00f 7y ago
    > Last I checked, most markets still do not allow Monero. You can use services like XMR.to to convert Monero to BTC and use that. Buying Monero initially to preserve anonymity, then converting smaller amounts to BTC to use for the markets.
    - bduerst 7y ago
      The vast majority of trusted exchanges won't even let you get an account without multiple forms of identification, meaning you're still traceable if you don't use some shady unknown exchange/tumbler (which could also be a honeypot).
      - 7y ago

AshwinDurairaj 7y ago

They're just some risks, we could also say: - Local drug dealer knows where you live and cut /threaten you - Local drug dealer can find out a lot about you, and mess with your job or family etc - Local drug dealers often always have cut or non pure 'product' - Local drug dealers from what I've read and seen, are much more likely to fuck you over than drug dealers on DNMs

bduerst 7y ago
The point here is that in Local vs. Darkweb, you still have means of having a way to identify the dealer when you buy face to face, or know them through a friend of a friend. Darkweb you have no idea.
buttcoinslol 7y ago
Why would a drug dealer want to inflict violence on you????

trenning 7y ago

Killing your cash flow is usually not a good practice. People are more likely to take your money and fuck off.

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tempsy 7y ago

Best practices: -Use VPN -Use a PO Box and not your home address -Use Monero and not BTC -Buy from sellers that ship quickly and check recent reviews in the last week or so -On the point about reputation gaming, you could use to you advantage by buying from a newer seller with a few good reviews knowing they are highly incentivized to ship quickly high quality product to get your review.

bduerst 7y ago
I agree 110%, but there are still issues: - VPNs are not perfect. IIRC Wall Street Market was busted in part using an exploit on the admin's VPN. - You need to use your real name and ID when renting a PO Box, and most dealers require you to share the full name for delivery to a PO Box, since that increases the odds of a successful delivery. The only workaround here is to register an LLC and use that company name for the PO box. - Last I checked, most markets still do not allow Monero. Empire market had a "bug" but that caused everyone to lose their monero, and they haven't re-enabled Monero last time I checked, effectively forcing everyone to use BTC. - Fake reviews are easy. If you buy from a newer seller you run the increased risk of a being scammed or getting harmful product. Luckily dealers are lazy though and will make all their fake reviews at once.
- 0xdeadb00f 7y ago
  > Last I checked, most markets still do not allow Monero. You can use services like XMR.to to convert Monero to BTC and use that. Buying Monero initially to preserve anonymity, then converting smaller amounts to BTC to use for the markets.
  - bduerst 7y ago
    The vast majority of trusted exchanges won't even let you get an account without multiple forms of identification, meaning you're still traceable if you don't use some shady unknown exchange/tumbler (which could also be a honeypot).
    - 7y ago