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WebOS OSE 2.1
- robbyt 7y agoDoes anyone know how different this is from the version used by LG for their TVs?
- mmanfrin 7y agoI'd love my TV to not run their goddamn spyware, to not autoinstall apps, to not run spam "Channel Plus" notifications.
- Mountain_Skies 7y agoHear, hear! I've never given my LG television any identifying information so it doesn't allow me to use any apps other than those that were installed when purchased. Which is fine but I hate getting notifications about channels they've added or removed. It should just display video as far as I'm concerned. I'd love to be able to sideload other apps without going through the LG store and giving them data.
- eropple 7y agoI’m not home so I can’t provide the magic list, but for those who are OK with a smart TV if it doesn’t track you: if you have a Pi-Hole or otherwise block a bunch of LG domains you can access the whole app ecosystem without the ads and the crap. You can find the list here and there online. The YouTube app is remarkably good.
- matthewmacleod 7y agoThis would be great. However, these massive problems aside, the LG webOS on TVs is by an absolute mile the best software I have ever encountered on a consumer electronics product. It completely blows away anything else.
- tpush 7y agoI've honestly never seen WebOS beyond the settings screen on my LG B7. During the initial setup it prompted me to create an LG account which I of course denied. It never bothered me since. I was also pleasantly surprised to see that all data collection/cookie stuff was set to off by default.
- smallstepforman 7y agoThe netflix app is very good. I was stunned to see the Disney+ app at 5Mb. So webOS apps have merrit.
- nfoz 7y agoYou can still buy dumb TVs, and a highly recommend it. For example, LG has a (hard to find) "commercial lite" line; my 55" 4k dumb TV works great. US: https://www.lg.com/us/business/hospitality-tvs/commercial-lite-displays https://www.lg.com/us/business/hospitality-tvs/commercial-li... Canada: https://www.lg.com/ca_en/commercial-lite https://www.lg.com/ca_en/commercial-lite
- macintux 7y agoWhat’s the fundamental difference between a dumb TV and a smart one that’s never configured to connect to WiFi?
- bilal4hmed 7y agoman, this OS had so much potential. HP just panicked on this one and killed it so early
- sersi 7y agoI loved the HP Touchpad, such a waste...
- bilal4hmed 7y agoI bought it during the fire sale and my mom used it for a number of years till all support for it was taken away. It was perfect at that price
- aidenn0 7y agoActually the CEO who was pushing for it turned out to be sexually harassing at least one of his employees and got fired
- lostgame 7y agoThe Palm Pre was one of my favourite phones I’ve ever owned, that awful little plastic feeling keyboard and sharp bottom aside. WebOS was very well designed, and IMHO only suffered due to underpowered hardware. I’ve always wanted to do something with it’s leftovers.
- bsharitt 7y agoI loved my Pre, but I didn't keep it, like you said the hardware wasn't very good. Also at release, while the software was good and showed a lot or promise, it did feel a little beta quality, and that would have been easier to overlook on better hardware. In the end I ended up returning the phone right at the end of my 30 day window and got my first Android phone the Samsung moment. The software was a step down, but at least the hardware was decent and the keyboard wasn't a nightmare to type on. I guess I was used to that paradigm since the phone I had immediately previous was a Nokia E71 and I had blackberrys before that.
- meremortals 7y agoLikewise. Long live WebOS!
- AdmiralAsshat 7y agoWebOS was great. The whole idea of "cards" iOS and Android blatantly stole from it. But even the TouchPad felt underpowered by the time it came out. It was, as one reviewer at the time put it, "An iPad 1 competitor in an iPad 2 world."
- giancarlostoro 7y agoIf I can put this on a Raspberry Pi I may just finally justify building a Raspberry Pi tablet or one of those laptop kits. According to: https://www.webosose.org/docs/guides/setup/system-requirements/ https://www.webosose.org/docs/guides/setup/system-requiremen... It does look to be very Raspberry Pi friendly!
- petecox 7y agodownstream LuneOS has ports to various devices, including a demo running on Pine64's phone devkit. https://youtu.be/G9lbXE_wWpQ https://youtu.be/G9lbXE_wWpQ
- c-smile 7y agoJust in case: I've started publishing Sciter.Lite that is HTML/CSS/script UI engine for devices: https://terrainformatica.com/2019/11/20/sciter-and-sciter-lite-universal-ui-solution/ https://terrainformatica.com/2019/11/20/sciter-and-sciter-li... One of use case is precisely a WebOS alike UI shell for devices. I am building it for ARM based devices too: Android, Raspberry and others.
- muterad_murilax 7y agoGreat, another OS project that hates screenshots...
- ergo14 7y agoThis is the OS you see on LG TV's
- no_wizard 7y agoIf I remember right, the biggest innovation of webOS(other than the at the time especially, amazing card based interface that is so common now) was that its applications at their core were built on web tech (HTML, CSS, JavaScript) with some performance underpinnings to QT It appears that also lives on! https://www.webosose.org/docs/guides/development/web-apps/web-app-overview/ https://www.webosose.org/docs/guides/development/web-apps/we... this would have been a very interesting twist of events if this aspect lived on as hardware became more capable especially I think its safe to say though its going to be relegated to a niche at this point. Though I hope the best for this project
- pjmlp 7y agoKind of, Symbian already had the Web Widgets runtime when WebOS came out, so while not having Web at core, the idea of Web apps already existed. Plus years before that, Microsoft explored the idea with Active Desktop and packaged Web apps.
- smallstepforman 7y agoDoes anyone know if this has BeOS DNA (since Palm bought out BeInc)?
- cmrdporcupine 7y agoNo, different PalmOS lineage.
- jayalpha 7y agoTo sack it may have been one of the stupidest decisions ever by a CEO (Apotheker). After the blow out sale they had something they were lacking before: huge customer base. But the idea to make money with software and apps instead of hardware may not have been compatible with HP business culture.
- ofrzeta 7y agoIt's confusing. I tried to find out who is behind it now and on what platforms it runs, and this is from the About page: "webOS is a web-centric and usability-focused software platform for smart devices, which has proven its performance and stability in over 70 million LG Smart TVs. ... The open source project of webOS, called webOS Open Source Edition (OSE), was announced in March 2018 under the philosophy of open platform, open partnership, and open connectivity" The FAQ however claims: Officially, webOS OSE 1.x and 2.0 only supports Raspberry Pi 3 and 4, respectively. However, as webOS OSE is an open source project, it is your call to decide whether to implement webOS OSE on any other form factors. Also there is "Tier 3 support" for ROS 2, the robotic operating system, whatever that means. It supports developing applications in C/C++ with Qt but also enactJs which is based on React.
- zakki 7y agoCan we use this to replace android on android based smartphone?
- als0 7y agoNot sure if the HP Veer is supported (it had original webOS), but it was certainly the smallest smartphone I've ever used. Though the keyboard was hilariously cramped it represented a curious and strangely enticing challenge! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r34-89BtmQA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r34-89BtmQA