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Im just curious if there are any examples of this kind of attitude actually working instead of just attracting more homeless people. So far it seems like San F

Im just curious if there are any examples of this kind of attitude actually working instead of just attracting more homeless people. So far it seems like San Francisco's policy of not enforcing basic quality of life laws has not made homeless people say "oh gee they sure are nice not to arrest me for dealing drugs and smashing car windows. To thank them I will not poop in the street."

leshow 7y ago
Sure, there are plenty of safe injection cities all over Canada. They save lives, not promote homelessness. https://www.ottawapublichealth.ca/en/public-health-topics/harm-reduction-services-in-ottawa.aspx https://www.ottawapublichealth.ca/en/public-health-topics/ha... edit: > "oh gee they sure are nice not to arrest me for dealing drugs and smashing car windows. To thank them I will not poop in the street." This is terribly reductionist, and apathy is not at all the same as actually providing help.
- dzhiurgis 7y ago
  With all of that homeless business going, would that toilet would be acceptable enough to use for a normal person? I certainly wouldn't go into one where I can find someone tripping, shooting, dealing, assaulting or smelling worse than the toilet itself.
  - leshow 7y ago
    I'm talking about a safe injection facility, not a toilet.
hiharryhere 7y ago
Supervised injecting rooms have been a great success in Sydney https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/lessons-from-the-heroin-injecting-room-20190115-p50rec.html https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/lessons-from-the-heroin-...
- gotoeleven 7y ago
  I believe safe injection rooms are a net positive because they reduce strain on ambulance services. That's great. But what's next? Massage parlors and day spas? Im sure they'd be able to better find a job if they were nice and limber and smelled nice. Maybe we should just give them free drugs? Otherwise they're just going to steal and panhandle to get money for drugs. Maybe we should just give them cash so they can buy whatever they need? If they're finally out from under financial stress I'm sure they'll be able to turn it around then.
  - artemonster 7y ago
    is your retina made out of digital binary light sensitive elements? so you only see black and white and nothing more? :) trying to strech the limits is the most idiotic way to "prove" a point
dade_ 7y ago
I didn't see anyone shitting on the streets in East Hastings in Vancouver or anywhere else in the world for that matter, but it was everywhere in SF Tenderloin.
artemonster 7y ago
take a look at germany. they concentrate asocials in special places that are easy to control, clean, and in high traffic areas where they cannot harm lone passing-by pedestrians. win-win-win

leshow 7y ago

Sure, there are plenty of safe injection cities all over Canada. They save lives, not promote homelessness. https://www.ottawapublichealth.ca/en/public-health-topics/harm-reduction-services-in-ottawa.aspx https://www.ottawapublichealth.ca/en/public-health-topics/ha... edit: > "oh gee they sure are nice not to arrest me for dealing drugs and smashing car windows. To thank them I will not poop in the street." This is terribly reductionist, and apathy is not at all the same as actually providing help.

dzhiurgis 7y ago
With all of that homeless business going, would that toilet would be acceptable enough to use for a normal person? I certainly wouldn't go into one where I can find someone tripping, shooting, dealing, assaulting or smelling worse than the toilet itself.
- leshow 7y ago
  I'm talking about a safe injection facility, not a toilet.

hiharryhere 7y ago

Supervised injecting rooms have been a great success in Sydney https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/lessons-from-the-heroin-injecting-room-20190115-p50rec.html https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/lessons-from-the-heroin-...

gotoeleven 7y ago
I believe safe injection rooms are a net positive because they reduce strain on ambulance services. That's great. But what's next? Massage parlors and day spas? Im sure they'd be able to better find a job if they were nice and limber and smelled nice. Maybe we should just give them free drugs? Otherwise they're just going to steal and panhandle to get money for drugs. Maybe we should just give them cash so they can buy whatever they need? If they're finally out from under financial stress I'm sure they'll be able to turn it around then.
- artemonster 7y ago
  is your retina made out of digital binary light sensitive elements? so you only see black and white and nothing more? :) trying to strech the limits is the most idiotic way to "prove" a point

dade_ 7y ago

I didn't see anyone shitting on the streets in East Hastings in Vancouver or anywhere else in the world for that matter, but it was everywhere in SF Tenderloin.

artemonster 7y ago

take a look at germany. they concentrate asocials in special places that are easy to control, clean, and in high traffic areas where they cannot harm lone passing-by pedestrians. win-win-win