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Sounds like someone reeeeeallly good at nudging envelopes and writing grant proposals. Will be mostly forgotten a couple hundred years from now. Academic playwr

by xamuel 7y ago

Sounds like someone reeeeeallly good at nudging envelopes and writing grant proposals. Will be mostly forgotten a couple hundred years from now. Academic playwrights thought Shakespeare was a joke in his day.

account73466 7y ago
"a couple hundred years from now" by whom? He contributed to AI, will not be forgotten by AI. Edit: if you don't get what I mean by "not be forgotten", he will be the most cited scientist so why AI will exclude all his papers from some of its training sets (assuming that at least some stage of AI's development it will learn how humans do research)? Sounds unlikely.
- xamuel 7y ago
  By human beings. And he did not contribute to AI capable of contemplating human research like a human does, because no such AI exists yet. When it does exist (if ever), it will surely not consider this person or his hundred lab workers to have contributed to AI. It will consider them to have contributed to applied statistics. Edit: I realized these comments might be very mean to you (assuming you're the lab director with the hundred workers). I should disclaim that what I say is something I assume is true about most people who gloat about their citation counts, but it's certainly not true about all such people, and might not be true about you. Myself, I'm a bit resentful because I'm so bad at the whole academic game, so that probably makes me quite biased.
  - account73466 7y ago
    >> assuming you're the lab director with the hundred workers You make wrong assumptions and proceed. I am not that person and thus I don't get why you attack me personally. While AI does not exist yet, that guy contributed to its development independently of your opinion about it. Don't attack people on HN.
    - wuliwong 7y ago
      >Don't attack people on HN. Don't attack people on HN.
      - account73466 7y ago
        True. I edited it to be nicer.

by xamuel 7y ago

account73466 7y ago

"a couple hundred years from now" by whom? He contributed to AI, will not be forgotten by AI. Edit: if you don't get what I mean by "not be forgotten", he will be the most cited scientist so why AI will exclude all his papers from some of its training sets (assuming that at least some stage of AI's development it will learn how humans do research)? Sounds unlikely.

xamuel 7y ago
By human beings. And he did not contribute to AI capable of contemplating human research like a human does, because no such AI exists yet. When it does exist (if ever), it will surely not consider this person or his hundred lab workers to have contributed to AI. It will consider them to have contributed to applied statistics. Edit: I realized these comments might be very mean to you (assuming you're the lab director with the hundred workers). I should disclaim that what I say is something I assume is true about most people who gloat about their citation counts, but it's certainly not true about all such people, and might not be true about you. Myself, I'm a bit resentful because I'm so bad at the whole academic game, so that probably makes me quite biased.
- account73466 7y ago
  >> assuming you're the lab director with the hundred workers You make wrong assumptions and proceed. I am not that person and thus I don't get why you attack me personally. While AI does not exist yet, that guy contributed to its development independently of your opinion about it. Don't attack people on HN.
  - wuliwong 7y ago
    >Don't attack people on HN. Don't attack people on HN.
    - account73466 7y ago
      True. I edited it to be nicer.