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I can relate. Last year's tax return put income at around $600K. So I'm not poor. I have found it very difficult to find a lawyer who is actually interested in

by cheez 7y ago

I can relate. Last year's tax return put income at around $600K. So I'm not poor. I have found it very difficult to find a lawyer who is actually interested in getting to a solution rather than dragging it out forever. Here is the cost of filing an agreement negotiated between me and a counter party: $5K. $5K for you to call someone and send over some paperwork. Sure, i can do the work myself but I could do it wrong, and judges don't like that. In fact, a judge initially rejected it until we had a lawyer. Can I even get someone on retainer? No. Because the retainer is used up in the first phone call. Useless waste of money. In my mind, lawyers have gone from people who used to be the bedrock against tyranny and are now rent seekers. Unbundled services are a step forward, but then you lose the benefit of context.

rhino369 7y ago
So you make 600k and you think lawyers charge too much huh.
- mikestew 7y ago
  The way I read it, the legal system charges too much. It isn't the lawyer's problem that the legal system (according to parent's anecdote) requires $5K worth of legal services. DIY isn't even an option. Besides, who cares how much parent makes? If people making those kind of fat stacks complain, how the hell is a barista supposed to get a lawyer?
  - cheez 7y ago
    Bingo. I can afford it. Others can't.
- phailhaus 7y ago
  Are they wrong? $5k is ridiculous regardless if it was as simple as they made it sound.
  - rhino369 7y ago
    I'm sure I could make his job seem easy too.
point78 7y ago
Doesn't matter if an oil change takes 5 minutes, youre paying for the decade of experience that got him to be good enough to do it in 5 minutes.
- cheez 7y ago
  Not remotely a problem. Lawyers force clients to spend money on the periphery, exhausting their appetite to actually seek redress or whatever they are trying to accomplish.
gamblor956 7y ago
You're paying (or paid) $5k for the lawyer to review the agreement before it is filed, which is why the judge made you get a lawyer to file it.
- cheez 7y ago
  I had already had another lawyer review it.

by cheez 7y ago

rhino369 7y ago

So you make 600k and you think lawyers charge too much huh.

mikestew 7y ago
The way I read it, the legal system charges too much. It isn't the lawyer's problem that the legal system (according to parent's anecdote) requires $5K worth of legal services. DIY isn't even an option. Besides, who cares how much parent makes? If people making those kind of fat stacks complain, how the hell is a barista supposed to get a lawyer?
- cheez 7y ago
  Bingo. I can afford it. Others can't.
phailhaus 7y ago
Are they wrong? $5k is ridiculous regardless if it was as simple as they made it sound.
- rhino369 7y ago
  I'm sure I could make his job seem easy too.

point78 7y ago

Doesn't matter if an oil change takes 5 minutes, youre paying for the decade of experience that got him to be good enough to do it in 5 minutes.

cheez 7y ago
Not remotely a problem. Lawyers force clients to spend money on the periphery, exhausting their appetite to actually seek redress or whatever they are trying to accomplish.

gamblor956 7y ago

You're paying (or paid) $5k for the lawyer to review the agreement before it is filed, which is why the judge made you get a lawyer to file it.

cheez 7y ago
I had already had another lawyer review it.