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12000 miles a year at 13mpg and 2.5$ gas is $2308 per year. With a 5 year ownership time you are saving only [$11500-charging electricity costs]. So mid range $

by readhn 7y ago

12000 miles a year at 13mpg and 2.5$ gas is $2308 per year. With a 5 year ownership time you are saving only [$11500-charging electricity costs]. So mid range $57000 AWD becomes $45500. Still pricey for most people. I'd rather them come out with totally utilitarian bare bones truck but with the range and basic capabilities for $25K or so. THAT would be a game changer in the SUV/Truck space.

gpm 7y ago
I doubt the economics around the battery pack allow for a 25k price point.
jdkee 7y ago
There are additional TCO for internal combustion vehicles that EVs do not have, such as maintenance on a vastly more complex set of components. If you amortize the costs of the EV over ten years you would likely see double the savings you cite.
- olyjohn 7y ago
  This is so overblown, it's not even funny. Look at that interior of the Tesla, and tell me that there's not a huge set of complex components. Imagine the repair costs on the stainless steel structure. No body shop is set up for this. If you want simple, low maintenance, a 2WD Silverado with a small block is as simple as it gets. You do what? Change the oil and coolant every now and then? Flush the transmission a couple times through it's life? If you stick with what's actually practical, ICEs are extremely reliable and have very little maintenance these days. People get hundreds of thousands of miles without so much as an over the air update... Also, I can do all this maintenance myself on a Silverado. Pop the drain plug, and then refill with fluid. Can you even do your own flush on the cooling system in a Tesla without voiding your warranty?
  - xedeon 7y ago
    > Can you even do your own flush on the cooling system in a Tesla without voiding your warranty? Good question. But you don't ever have to! https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/battery-coolant-does-not-need-to-be-replaced-for-the-life-of-your-vehicle.160046/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/battery-coolant-does... But to answer your question YES you can do your own maintenance. "How Much To Service Your Tesla? " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meJp2lj_NnM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meJp2lj_NnM This myth about owners not being able to perform basic (pretty much non-existent) maintenance on Teslas is way overblown.
- davrosthedalek 7y ago
  Last time I heard, insuring a Tesla is more expensive. And wait times for repairs can be ridiculously long (and expensive). For a work truck, unpredictable down-time is a serious problem. Might have changed though.

by readhn 7y ago

gpm 7y ago

I doubt the economics around the battery pack allow for a 25k price point.

jdkee 7y ago

There are additional TCO for internal combustion vehicles that EVs do not have, such as maintenance on a vastly more complex set of components. If you amortize the costs of the EV over ten years you would likely see double the savings you cite.

olyjohn 7y ago
This is so overblown, it's not even funny. Look at that interior of the Tesla, and tell me that there's not a huge set of complex components. Imagine the repair costs on the stainless steel structure. No body shop is set up for this. If you want simple, low maintenance, a 2WD Silverado with a small block is as simple as it gets. You do what? Change the oil and coolant every now and then? Flush the transmission a couple times through it's life? If you stick with what's actually practical, ICEs are extremely reliable and have very little maintenance these days. People get hundreds of thousands of miles without so much as an over the air update... Also, I can do all this maintenance myself on a Silverado. Pop the drain plug, and then refill with fluid. Can you even do your own flush on the cooling system in a Tesla without voiding your warranty?
- xedeon 7y ago
  > Can you even do your own flush on the cooling system in a Tesla without voiding your warranty? Good question. But you don't ever have to! https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/battery-coolant-does-not-need-to-be-replaced-for-the-life-of-your-vehicle.160046/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/battery-coolant-does... But to answer your question YES you can do your own maintenance. "How Much To Service Your Tesla? " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meJp2lj_NnM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meJp2lj_NnM This myth about owners not being able to perform basic (pretty much non-existent) maintenance on Teslas is way overblown.
davrosthedalek 7y ago
Last time I heard, insuring a Tesla is more expensive. And wait times for repairs can be ridiculously long (and expensive). For a work truck, unpredictable down-time is a serious problem. Might have changed though.