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Which is it? That they don't care, or they care but disagree? The first seems to be pretty much the definition of "amoral". "Lacking a moral sense; unconcerne
by ajna91 7y ago
Which is it? That they don't care, or they care but disagree?
The first seems to be pretty much the definition of "amoral".
"Lacking a moral sense; unconcerned with the rightness or wrongness of something."
- sl1ck731 7y agoUsing amoral implies there is at least a consensus on what is moral and they are acting opposite to it. This is an entire conversation on what is even moral to begin with. It is smearing someone by associating your "morality" to a particularly grey area.
- ahelwer 7y agoThis just in folks, we can't actually condemn an action until the entire field of ethics is solved. There is actually zero difference between good and bad things dril tweet etc.
- sl1ck731 7y agoYou can condemn whatever you want. I don't care either way in this particular case. If you'll notice I commented on the inflammatory nature of the post directed towards the workers, not condemning the policies that make it possible. But hey, this just in folks, smugness will help everyone come to an agreement.
- ahelwer 7y agoEngineers at Facebook make $100k+ a year and have absolutely no standing to shirk moral responsibility. By all means they should be called out. More effective than deflecting to some vague unaccountable company policy.
- sl1ck731 7y agoBy that description, anyone working for Google, Amazon, Microsoft are inherently immoral. If you are willing to cast a large net for your own grievances then you should demonize the rest, as those companies do things that you might not find particularly important but others find "immoral".
- birdyrooster 7y agoThey are and our community sees Facebook, Google, Amazon and Microsoft as generally committing many of the same sins. We are not charitable in our views of them or their employees. You can tell by the comments on Hacker News.
- wordsworst 7y agoIt’s literally the opposite. “Opposed to moral consensus” is immoral. “Grey area” is definitionally amoral. You’re complaining because “amoral” still sounds like a bad thing to call someone. And it is, exactly because history doesn’t tend to see that “it seemed like a grey area at the time” defense very charitably.
- mlurp 7y agoWait, is that right? I thought your definition of immoral there is correct. But I thought that "gray area" means a person has morals, but the goodness of the topic is tricky to decide, while "amoral" just means the person doesn't even have a "right and wrong" scale, or doesn't care.