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The features you mention (code editing, CI, CD, orchestration, issues, Web IDE, agile board) are available in all tiers of GitLab, including the free open sourc

by sytse 7y ago

The features you mention (code editing, CI, CD, orchestration, issues, Web IDE, agile board) are available in all tiers of GitLab, including the free open source version and the one for $4 per user per month (paid annually). What are the top features what you get with other software that are not in the free version of GitLab?

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Quekid5 7y ago
Obviously correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't some of the stuff mentioned by the poster migrated from a higher tier to a lower tier over time? I get the impression that the poster's experience was a while ago...
- sytse 7y ago
  All of these have been in free/core since they got released as far as I remember.
  - Quekid5 7y ago
    Oh, ok, fair enough. I was just thinking back to an evaluation we did on GitLab, but it seems I may have misremembered. We actually ended up going with GitLab, but we cannot currently really justify the price tag for the Enterprise edition even though we want just a few of the features :/. FWIW, I think a high-but-fixed-price could work better, but that's obviously just from a customer perspective -- I'm sure you have a lot more information on what works wrt. monetization. I will say that we are actively looking for alternatives because we are a dev company and we want all the things, but realistically... it's not going to happen in the next year or two.
    - sytse 7y ago
      Thanks! What tier of the Enterprise Edition can't you justify the price tag of? Gold/Ultimate? Are you on Silver/Premium now?
      - apple4ever 7y ago
        The security testing should absolutely not be in the highest tier.
donmcronald 7y ago
IMHO, this is the biggest feature that should be considered for the smaller paid tiers: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/issues/2105 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/issues/2105 The kind of people I would like to have as free users wouldn't even label issues. They'd submit an issue and I'd have to deal with it. Think entry level issue tracking, not a JIRA competitor (for my needs). Also, being able to mix tiers would be great. The way Microsoft does Office 365 is awesome. Each user is on a plan that gives them exactly the features they need. GitLab is really weird in a way. I think it's a really good product, but, at the same time, I don't want to invite anyone to use my self-hosted instance and I don't bother learning about the features in the paid tiers. The big issue for me is that I'm a long way off from being able to pay $1200/year per user, so there's no point in learning about any of the "expensive" features. I know I'm not worth having as a customer in terms of profit, but I know people who are. I'm also a lot more willing (and able) to experiment with new features and workflows. There's got to be _some_ value on the low end to make an open core product practical. If you ever decide to allow mixing of tiers for self-hosted, maybe you could include some free licenses. 1 Ultimate, 2 Premium, etc. would have almost no impact on revenue from large instances, but would be a significant help to small developers in terms of the cost average of their first 5-10 users. I think it would also be beneficial for the first several users to have access to most features because that makes it more likely someone like me will build using those features. For comparison, the first 10 full features users in a self-hosted Atlassian setup are very inexpensive.
- SergeAx 7y ago
  > The kind of people I would like to have as free users wouldn't even label issues. They'd submit an issue and I'd have to deal with it. I would just create a web-form with simple auth, which would post issues onto GitLab via API call.

by sytse 7y ago

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Quekid5 7y ago

Obviously correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't some of the stuff mentioned by the poster migrated from a higher tier to a lower tier over time? I get the impression that the poster's experience was a while ago...

sytse 7y ago
All of these have been in free/core since they got released as far as I remember.
- Quekid5 7y ago
  Oh, ok, fair enough. I was just thinking back to an evaluation we did on GitLab, but it seems I may have misremembered. We actually ended up going with GitLab, but we cannot currently really justify the price tag for the Enterprise edition even though we want just a few of the features :/. FWIW, I think a high-but-fixed-price could work better, but that's obviously just from a customer perspective -- I'm sure you have a lot more information on what works wrt. monetization. I will say that we are actively looking for alternatives because we are a dev company and we want all the things, but realistically... it's not going to happen in the next year or two.
  - sytse 7y ago
    Thanks! What tier of the Enterprise Edition can't you justify the price tag of? Gold/Ultimate? Are you on Silver/Premium now?
    - apple4ever 7y ago
      The security testing should absolutely not be in the highest tier.

donmcronald 7y ago

IMHO, this is the biggest feature that should be considered for the smaller paid tiers: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/issues/2105 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/issues/2105 The kind of people I would like to have as free users wouldn't even label issues. They'd submit an issue and I'd have to deal with it. Think entry level issue tracking, not a JIRA competitor (for my needs). Also, being able to mix tiers would be great. The way Microsoft does Office 365 is awesome. Each user is on a plan that gives them exactly the features they need. GitLab is really weird in a way. I think it's a really good product, but, at the same time, I don't want to invite anyone to use my self-hosted instance and I don't bother learning about the features in the paid tiers. The big issue for me is that I'm a long way off from being able to pay $1200/year per user, so there's no point in learning about any of the "expensive" features. I know I'm not worth having as a customer in terms of profit, but I know people who are. I'm also a lot more willing (and able) to experiment with new features and workflows. There's got to be _some_ value on the low end to make an open core product practical. If you ever decide to allow mixing of tiers for self-hosted, maybe you could include some free licenses. 1 Ultimate, 2 Premium, etc. would have almost no impact on revenue from large instances, but would be a significant help to small developers in terms of the cost average of their first 5-10 users. I think it would also be beneficial for the first several users to have access to most features because that makes it more likely someone like me will build using those features. For comparison, the first 10 full features users in a self-hosted Atlassian setup are very inexpensive.

SergeAx 7y ago
> The kind of people I would like to have as free users wouldn't even label issues. They'd submit an issue and I'd have to deal with it. I would just create a web-form with simple auth, which would post issues onto GitLab via API call.