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It’s unfortunate that Cloud Print will be shutting down. It was a convenient and useful utility. It couldn’t have cost that much to run. Perhaps the shutdown h

It’s unfortunate that Cloud Print will be shutting down. It was a convenient and useful utility. It couldn’t have cost that much to run. Perhaps the shutdown has something to do with the product possibly being based on Google Talk? The port requirements for the print server include: “5222 TCP (XMPP, using STARTTLS), with a persistent connection to: talk.google.com.” [1] [1]: https://support.google.com/a/answer/3179170 https://support.google.com/a/answer/3179170 (Note: I also posted this comment on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21600206 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21600206 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21598815 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21598815)

ocdtrekkie 7y ago
This seems pretty plausible considering Hangouts, aka Talk 2, is being shut down the same month. So weird that presumably they glommed their print service on top of chat.
- tech234a 7y ago
  The Google Talk connection appears to only be used to receive print job notifications on the print server. I guess it made sense in 2010 when Cloud Print was launched.
dang 7y ago
Please don't post duplicate comments to HN! It lowers signal-noise ratio and makes it hard to merge threads. Now that the threads are merged, I have to go find the other copies and kill them, and if they have replies, move the replies to the surviving copy. That takes quite a lot of REPL work. Here's what to do instead: when you notice that a discussion has forked and your comment is languishing in the losing branch, email hn@ycombinator.com and get us to merge them. Then your comment will get moved to the winning branch, and you've benefited the whole community with an un-split discussion. (I appreciate your mentioning the duplicates, though, because otherwise we wouldn't have known about them. Maybe there's a software idea in there.)
- PascLeRasc 7y ago
  Would it be possible for you to preserve the highest-scoring dupe when you do this? I was reading through one of them with around 350-400 points, and now I can't find it but this has around 100. It makes it unclear that it's the same original discussion moved, and I doubt this was your intention, but it could come across like you're trying to downplay the significance of a topic when the main discussion loses points and frontpage ranking.
  - dang 7y ago
    I'm not sure what you mean by "preserve"? I don't think it's fair to leave the highest-scoring story as the winner; we usually try to privilege the one who posted first, i.e. the true original discussion. I think the community prefers that and it provides a better incentive. The story didn't lose front page ranking because I rolled back the clock on the original submission (the one we're currently commenting on) to put it more or less where the other submission had been.
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ocdtrekkie 7y ago

This seems pretty plausible considering Hangouts, aka Talk 2, is being shut down the same month. So weird that presumably they glommed their print service on top of chat.

tech234a 7y ago
The Google Talk connection appears to only be used to receive print job notifications on the print server. I guess it made sense in 2010 when Cloud Print was launched.

dang 7y ago

Please don't post duplicate comments to HN! It lowers signal-noise ratio and makes it hard to merge threads. Now that the threads are merged, I have to go find the other copies and kill them, and if they have replies, move the replies to the surviving copy. That takes quite a lot of REPL work. Here's what to do instead: when you notice that a discussion has forked and your comment is languishing in the losing branch, email hn@ycombinator.com and get us to merge them. Then your comment will get moved to the winning branch, and you've benefited the whole community with an un-split discussion. (I appreciate your mentioning the duplicates, though, because otherwise we wouldn't have known about them. Maybe there's a software idea in there.)

PascLeRasc 7y ago
Would it be possible for you to preserve the highest-scoring dupe when you do this? I was reading through one of them with around 350-400 points, and now I can't find it but this has around 100. It makes it unclear that it's the same original discussion moved, and I doubt this was your intention, but it could come across like you're trying to downplay the significance of a topic when the main discussion loses points and frontpage ranking.
- dang 7y ago
  I'm not sure what you mean by "preserve"? I don't think it's fair to leave the highest-scoring story as the winner; we usually try to privilege the one who posted first, i.e. the true original discussion. I think the community prefers that and it provides a better incentive. The story didn't lose front page ranking because I rolled back the clock on the original submission (the one we're currently commenting on) to put it more or less where the other submission had been.
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