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I know Microsoft gets a lot of flak for their historical support of legacy systems, but on the flip-side it means that as an enterprise you trust that they won'

I know Microsoft gets a lot of flak for their historical support of legacy systems, but on the flip-side it means that as an enterprise you trust that they won't abruptly deprecate something you use.

rapsey 7y ago
Microsoft is the enterprise company. Google never was.
noobermin 7y ago
Despite all the disdain for Microsoft in the spirit of slashdot sentiments, Google has turned out to be worse in many respects.
- sct202 7y ago
  I think everyone had higher expectations for Google, but Microsoft doesn't get the same level of scrutiny for things like running a fully CCP approved version of Bing in China.
  - v7p1Qbt1im 7y ago
    Another example of this double standard is their Health care cloud work, covered by HIPAA, a deal that‘s extremely common in this sector. Also facial recognition tech. While Google is actively limiting its use, Amazon is happily selling it to everyone who‘d have it. It might have something to do with the fact that most media outlets have a vested interest in weakening Google in the public eye. Other than that, What HN/ars is concerned, Google basically seems worse than the military industrial complex and big oil combined. They certainly do annoying shit. But in this specific case, cloud print was a product that was in beta for almost a decade. It was very unreliable and didn‘t work correctly half of the time. But of course killing it counts as ADHD. A 10-year old non-enterprise niche product is ancient in tech years.
nine_k 7y ago
Flak? You mean, respect from people who were around for a few years (or decades) and saw the sexy new thing change from under them in incompatible ways? I've seen some reprieve towards MS for their new things not being nice enough, but never for their old thing continuing to work mostly without a hitch.
skrebbel 7y ago
You mean like Silverlight?
- PJDK 7y ago
  According to wikipedia there's support for Silverlight on IE9 through to 2021 - that doesn't seem too bad?
jtreminio 7y ago
My 13 year old son can no longer play a large part of our Steam library because many of the games he enjoys are 32-bit only (Geometry Dash, for one) and we've upgraded to MacOS Catalina. My old copy of Adobe Photoshop CS6 also cannot be installed because the installer is 32-bit, although there's reports if you had it installed before upgrading you can force it to run. I can rollback my son's laptop, but I am on the new 16" MBP which ships with Catalina. Annoyed is putting it mildly.
- dehrmann 7y ago
  Not sure how this is a response to the comment about MS supporting things forever, other than that all those things probably still work on Windows 10. Office 97 probably still works on Windows 10.
- filleduchaos 7y ago
  As an aside, you can install both Mojave (or High Sierra) and Catalina on a single laptop with minimal friction.
  - LeoPanthera 7y ago
    Not on the 16" MBP, or any Mac which comes delivered with Catalina. You can't downgrade a Mac to a version before whatever it was delivered with.
    - filleduchaos 7y ago
      I said install both, not downgrade. Admittedly I presumed (perhaps wrongly) that most people here know what dual booting is.
      - LeoPanthera 7y ago
        You still can't. You cannot boot a version of macOS earlier than the supplied one, for any particular machine.

I know Microsoft gets a lot of flak for their historical support of legacy systems, but on the flip-side it means that as an enterprise you trust that they won't abruptly deprecate something you use.

rapsey 7y ago

Microsoft is the enterprise company. Google never was.

noobermin 7y ago

Despite all the disdain for Microsoft in the spirit of slashdot sentiments, Google has turned out to be worse in many respects.

sct202 7y ago
I think everyone had higher expectations for Google, but Microsoft doesn't get the same level of scrutiny for things like running a fully CCP approved version of Bing in China.
- v7p1Qbt1im 7y ago
  Another example of this double standard is their Health care cloud work, covered by HIPAA, a deal that‘s extremely common in this sector. Also facial recognition tech. While Google is actively limiting its use, Amazon is happily selling it to everyone who‘d have it. It might have something to do with the fact that most media outlets have a vested interest in weakening Google in the public eye. Other than that, What HN/ars is concerned, Google basically seems worse than the military industrial complex and big oil combined. They certainly do annoying shit. But in this specific case, cloud print was a product that was in beta for almost a decade. It was very unreliable and didn‘t work correctly half of the time. But of course killing it counts as ADHD. A 10-year old non-enterprise niche product is ancient in tech years.

nine_k 7y ago

Flak? You mean, respect from people who were around for a few years (or decades) and saw the sexy new thing change from under them in incompatible ways? I've seen some reprieve towards MS for their new things not being nice enough, but never for their old thing continuing to work mostly without a hitch.

skrebbel 7y ago

You mean like Silverlight?

PJDK 7y ago
According to wikipedia there's support for Silverlight on IE9 through to 2021 - that doesn't seem too bad?

jtreminio 7y ago

My 13 year old son can no longer play a large part of our Steam library because many of the games he enjoys are 32-bit only (Geometry Dash, for one) and we've upgraded to MacOS Catalina. My old copy of Adobe Photoshop CS6 also cannot be installed because the installer is 32-bit, although there's reports if you had it installed before upgrading you can force it to run. I can rollback my son's laptop, but I am on the new 16" MBP which ships with Catalina. Annoyed is putting it mildly.

dehrmann 7y ago
Not sure how this is a response to the comment about MS supporting things forever, other than that all those things probably still work on Windows 10. Office 97 probably still works on Windows 10.
filleduchaos 7y ago
As an aside, you can install both Mojave (or High Sierra) and Catalina on a single laptop with minimal friction.
- LeoPanthera 7y ago
  Not on the 16" MBP, or any Mac which comes delivered with Catalina. You can't downgrade a Mac to a version before whatever it was delivered with.
  - filleduchaos 7y ago
    I said install both, not downgrade. Admittedly I presumed (perhaps wrongly) that most people here know what dual booting is.
    - LeoPanthera 7y ago
      You still can't. You cannot boot a version of macOS earlier than the supplied one, for any particular machine.