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I think people are not as aware of this: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1197627433970589696 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1197627433970589696 "Tesla
by flurdy 7y ago
I think people are not as aware of this: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1197627433970589696 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1197627433970589696
"Tesla Cybertruck (pressurized edition) will be official truck of Mars"
They have designed it to drive on Mars.
- Kye 7y agoIt will probably look better in the context of the Martian landscape, set in the foreground with the first colony in the background. On Earth, it's ugly.
- AndrewBissell 7y agoIf there's one thing I want in a truck it's the ability to drive on a planet which I will never actually visit.
- adwi 7y agoIs that any less logical than owning a vehicle than can drive 2-3X over any legal speed limit?
- Jamwinner 7y agoOne you can actually do, so yeah.
- theplague42 7y agoThat's for fuel efficiency and acceleration. You wouldn't want to constantly redline your engine.
- dharmab 7y agoYou can take any car to a racetrack and drive as fast as you like for a couple of hundred dollars per event. You can even get professional instruction. https://www.scca.com/pages/scca-track-events https://www.scca.com/pages/scca-track-events
- gameswithgo 7y agothose events do not let you go as fast as you like. there ARE some events that do but its a really bad idea in a car with no cage and safety equipment. I've done it of course.
- selectodude 7y agoI've found that my stomach for speed is inversely proportional to how fast I'm allowed to go. I'm not sure I have the stones to go fast enough to need a roll cage on a race track.
- abfan1127 7y agoyou don't need the stones, just the money! Seriously though, check out 24 Hours of Lemons. We race in it. Its the best!
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- tapland 7y agoYou can also be dropped on Mars with a pressurized Tesla. Most people would put 'buying access to a track' into the 'things I will never do'-box.
- dharmab 7y agoIt's a fairly common past time for people interested in fast cars. It's comparable in price to a day skiing.
- hef19898 7y agoSame goes for off-roading. Luckily I live like an hour away from a big parc in Germany so my 1982 Range Rover can enjoy his natural environment at least a couple of times! Logically totally useless, but hell of fun!
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- ben509 7y agoIt's the logical conclusion of SUV marketing.
- blaser-waffle 7y ago"Yeah, but I could if I wanted to" -- middle class suburbanite, probably
- JulianMorrison 7y agoThey already sell cars with a bioweapon defense mode.
- hef19898 7y agoWho does that? Seriously asking, even if I can imagine the answer already...
- slg 7y agoTesla. It is unnecessary in almost all circumstances, but a lot of people have raved about it when dealing with California's wildfires for example.
- hef19898 7y agoAh, so they covered B and C weapons. What about A and hardened electronics?
- Zanni 7y agoTesla does: https://futurism.com/the-byte/tesla-wildfires-bioweapon-defense https://futurism.com/the-byte/tesla-wildfires-bioweapon-defe.... It's an optional upgrade. I ordered it for my Model S because, at the time, Hawaii was experiencing really bad VOG, which my girlfriend was extremely sensitive to. On bad days, she could retreat to the Tesla, activate BioWeapon Defense mode, and experience some relief.
- PaulHoule 7y agoThe moon would be good enough. The first thing I want to send to the moon is a bulldozer, you could make one based on that platform. Also it would be fun to road trip on the moon at the right speed to stay in the sun all month.
- isantop 7y agoThats only like 3mph max...
- danimal88 7y ago"[Designed to drive on mars]" Premature Optimization if I have ever heard of it.
- swiley 7y agoI hope it doesn’t use touch controls. Having to remove a space suite so you can adjust the atmospheric controls sounds stupid.
- gpm 7y agoIf you're in a space suit... Why do you care about the cars atmospheric controls? Anyways, SpaceX space suits are compatible with touchscreens... And that seems unlikely to change given how easy it is to make them that way.
- j2bax 7y agoIf you are in a pressurized climate controlled cabin, why do you need a space suit on?
- gwd 7y ago"YAGNI" seems a pretty likely prediction...
- hef19898 7y agoSo no product update or facelift of Cybertruck until we need pickups on Mars? It should be the longest running car model in history by then!
- kanaba 7y ago3 years? If they manage to launch in the 2022 window I would imagine a rover will be included.
- hef19898 7y agoSo, the idea is to use a presurized Cybertruck as a, I assume manned, rover on mars in 2025. So there will be a manned mission to mars in 2025 supposedly conducted by SpaceX. Otherwise the economics of using something as large and heavy as a Cybertruck is just not feasible.
- dole 7y agoWith Tesla's work on autodriving capabilities, I'm kind of hoping this might be Musk's personal R/C car on Mars as an unmanned rover concept before humans get there.
- hef19898 7y agoOne thing that puzzles me, and that is also a big reason for me being sceptical towards Musk, is that almost of his ideas are stuff I phantasized about in my teens because they were "cool". But with all cool things from your teens, they turn ridiculous when you grow up. And unprofessional in the industries SpaceX and Tesla are in. A remote controlled Cybertruck on Mars? Technically already now feasible but expensive and pointless to get there. Not sure what Musk being able to finance all that is good thing.
- rpmisms 7y agoIf something is both immaturely "cool", and immensely practical/ecofriendly/a good choice, we can all fulfill our childhood dreams while being responsible adults. Fart mode in the Tesla is a good example. Hilarious, stupid, and in some of the best and eco-friendliest cars ever.
- giarc 7y agoI think that was a joke.
- dehrmann 7y agoThe SEC should have a chat with Elon about that. He already put one of his cars in space, and owns a company trying to get to Mars. That puts it at about 80% joke in my mind.
- keane 7y agoI’m not so sure. As Elon said “We’re going to be using the same alloy in the Starship rocket and in the Cybertruck”. The Tesla truck itself might be a way to subsidize the SpaceX rocket development (or vice versa). It sounds like technology between the two entities is being shared already.
- slg 7y agoI think that is a bad joke rather than a legitimate plan to pressurize the vehicle. The fact that it is coming from Elon's Twitter and not Tesla's is a big indicator in my opinion. Either way, it isn't a great sign that we can't tell for sure.
- mrandish 7y agoI think it will be partly true. Assuming Elon's Mars missions happen, it seems reasonable they'll need a vehicle at some point and I expect that vehicle will use some elements from the CyberTruck design.
- slg 7y agoI just can't imagine them needing this type of vehicle anytime soon. The first car on the moon was unpressurized because the only real benefit to pressurizing the vehicle is if the astronauts don't need to be wearing pressurized suits inside. That would either mean that there are car sized airlocks to travel between or that the astronauts will be traveling long enough distances in the car that it provides a real comfort benefit for them to take off some of their suits. Neither of those is likely to happen on the first trips to Mars. Even then, this truck doesn't appear particularly light compared to your average vehicle. It also has a ton of added weight from things that would be wasted on Mars like huge acceleration, unnecessary top speed, and the ability to withstand vehicular accidents that would never occur on Mars. Maybe Tesla tries to preserve the look of this car for whatever they may or may not eventually put on Mars, but I doubt it is going to be close to being this car.
- rory096 7y agoWhy would a car-size airlock be required? A simple airtight hatch for the car to dock to (similar to a suitport) would work fine. The first car on the moon was unpressurized because the program was a once-cancelled afterthought designed to fit into a spare cargo bay and unfold, with tight mass constraints. MOLAB was impractical because of the upmass required, not because pressurization wouldn't have been useful.
- jaynetics 7y agoI imagine it going on missions like this one: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0TrnJ0Wucfk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0TrnJ0Wucfk
- prestonh 7y agoThat's exactly what I thought of when I first saw the car.
- ComputerGuru 7y agoThat’s just a marketing stunt. It would be sheer stupidity to actually have the same design goals for both terrestrial and Martian vehicles.
- gpm 7y agoDesigning stuff is really expensive, using things made for Earth with minimal modifications really makes a lot of sense. The steel is cheap on mars too (initially), since you ship it there anyways as part of the cargo starships, which aren't return to earth (since the energy to make fuel is initially really expensive on mars). Manufacture it in Mars and your basically just talking about shipping the batteries, motors, and a small amount of electronics (and machinery you will need anyways).
- olyjohn 7y agoDesigning a mass-production truck NOW for use on Mars really makes no sense at all.
- gpm 7y agoDon't get me wrong, I hope that little to no consideration was given to mars in the design. But if we happen to get to mars on Elon's most aggressive time tables (2025 iirc) it would make sense to base the vehicles on mars after this rather than designing from scratch. And it would make sense to keep the modifications reasonably minimal if possible.
- ComputerGuru 7y agoNo, it really wouldn’t. The base requirements differ so greatly that starting from scratch would be both cheaper and more practical. They are not different takes on the same vehicle, they are two fundamentally different automotives with extremely different terrain, durability, maintainability, and optimization goals. From the very start it is virtually impossible to go from a unibody design like this cyber truck to a true all-terrain body-on-frame construction and everything else depends on that.