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I think it's sad though that people want to have an armored car that looks like a stealth fighter. It's also strange that you can sell it in a context of 'bein

I think it's sad though that people want to have an armored car that looks like a stealth fighter. It's also strange that you can sell it in a context of 'being prepared', with the offroad capability and everything - I don't know a better example for a vehicle being dependent on an always-on infrasructure than an armored electric truck.

sneak 7y ago
> I think it's sad though that people want to have an armored car that looks like a stealth fighter. Why?
- wnkrshm 7y ago
  Because it's not a car that is not armored and just looks like a stealth fighter. And because it's not a car that is armored and looks like a regular car. It seems to me people like the martial aesthetic and function(!) as a status symbol, maybe without reflecting why the martial aesthetic is what it is. To keep people in a metal shell with guns on it from being shredded. A civil society should find these things ugly but respect their necessity, not celebrate them. And if civil society has a real need for these things, it's in a sad state.
  - sneak 7y ago
    What if it just looks cool because angular things made out of metal look cool, not because we are death fetishists or living in a dangerous society? Also, weapons and weaponry can be aesthetically pleasing without accepting the inevitability of violence.
  - rpmisms 7y ago
    A civil society can also find martial design cool as hell.
SuoDuanDao 7y ago
> I don't know a better example for a vehicle being dependent on an always-on infrasructure than an armored electric truck. Why? It is so, so much easier to produce your own electricity than your own gasoline. A truck running on slightly impure ethanol or gasified wood would still be more independent, but there are performance issues to consider there.
- wnkrshm 7y ago
  After reading up a bit more I think I was too hasty with that statement. Getting a practical solar capacity is quite a lot cheaper than I imagined for many latitudes.

sneak 7y ago

> I think it's sad though that people want to have an armored car that looks like a stealth fighter. Why?

wnkrshm 7y ago
Because it's not a car that is not armored and just looks like a stealth fighter. And because it's not a car that is armored and looks like a regular car. It seems to me people like the martial aesthetic and function(!) as a status symbol, maybe without reflecting why the martial aesthetic is what it is. To keep people in a metal shell with guns on it from being shredded. A civil society should find these things ugly but respect their necessity, not celebrate them. And if civil society has a real need for these things, it's in a sad state.
- sneak 7y ago
  What if it just looks cool because angular things made out of metal look cool, not because we are death fetishists or living in a dangerous society? Also, weapons and weaponry can be aesthetically pleasing without accepting the inevitability of violence.
- rpmisms 7y ago
  A civil society can also find martial design cool as hell.

SuoDuanDao 7y ago

> I don't know a better example for a vehicle being dependent on an always-on infrasructure than an armored electric truck. Why? It is so, so much easier to produce your own electricity than your own gasoline. A truck running on slightly impure ethanol or gasified wood would still be more independent, but there are performance issues to consider there.

wnkrshm 7y ago
After reading up a bit more I think I was too hasty with that statement. Getting a practical solar capacity is quite a lot cheaper than I imagined for many latitudes.