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rich, coming from a guy whose entire career is stereotype "comedy" if censorship is cool now, how about starting with the crass bullshit people like SBC beam i
by jstewartmobile 7y ago
rich, coming from a guy whose entire career is stereotype "comedy"
if censorship is cool now, how about starting with the crass bullshit people like SBC beam into people's living rooms?
i'm willing to bet money that people will do a better job sorting fact from fiction when they're no longer immersed in hollywood stupidity 24x7.
- knolax 7y agoI can't believe the same man responsible for the vile minstrel show that was Borat is so often lauded as some sort of progressive champion. I guess it's ok to be racist as long as the targets are Kazakhs and not Jews.
- comeonbee 7y agoYou're pretty dense if you think borat etc is unfiltered racism. Even people in kz see borat as high comedy. If you think anyone is offended by borat and etc then you yourself has unreasonably soft skin. Your points are voided, in any cases.
- knolax 7y agoIf Borat is your version of high comedy then I feel sorry for you. That scene in the beginning where he calls his sister the highest ranked prostitute in the country really makes you instrospect. You can say Borat is some sort of modern Tocqueville but Tocqueville didn't spend the entire time pretending to be German and telling everyone about how they drink horse piss in Germany.
- sbhn 7y agoIn australia they drink cats piss, its called fosters
- notkzfkfk 7y agoI'm not kazakh. So borat is no high comedy for me. I'm just saying that kz people have felt so. I'm sure we agree, but I've discussed borat as recent as a couple of weeks ago, in kz, and they see it as comedic and not a problem. Borat is not a problem, but not my kind of comedy either. So it seems we agree, good sir.
- rishav_sharan 7y agoWhy make personal attacks? You could have made the same points without calling him names.
- royaltyinc 7y agoIts not personal at all, sir. "You" and all the other aspects is the royal you, not at all anything personal against the good sir. "You" is just a wider you, do not worry about it. Thank you good sirs. We have no problems sirs.
- utf985 7y agoMy experience with this is very different. I used to know a few kazakh fellows and their views on Borat were resentful to say the least. They said Sacha Cohen is a universally hated figure in Kazakhstan, along with the Borat movie itself, to the point where a lot of people genuinely want him dead. I have no doubt some Kazakhstan citizens actually enjoy Borat but to generalize it as being seen as "high comedy" over there is a vast and incorrect exaggeration.
- yesiunderstand 7y agoYep. I know that your version is correct, as well. My only point is that there are several young kz thst are not offended by it. They just don't associate it with Kazakhstan, and take no offence. It's just like the red sonja movie or whatever with Schwarzenegger, in russia, they just think it's disconnected fun, and has nothing to do with Russia. But i agree sir
- EliRivers 7y agoKazakhs weren't the targets.
- knolax 7y agoThat's what makes it worst, the theme didn't even have anything to do with Kazakhs, they just threw in the low-effort stereotyping for comedic effect.
- whytaka 7y agoI think GP means to say that the target was our privileged ignorance.
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- zozbot234 7y agoYup, the controversial scenes in Borat's "home village" were actually shot in rural Romania. But I'm not sure that stereotyping poor, rural Romanians is any better.
- gherkinnn 7y agoNeither Romanians nor Kazakhs were the but of the joke. They were a vehicle to poke fun at ignorant westeners.
- zozbot234 7y ago> Neither Romanians nor Kazakhs were the but of the joke. How could one tell?
- gherkinnn 7y agoA few things - Kazakh people (mostly) look nothing like Borat - It was clearly (to me, a European) set in eastern Europe - Cohen played on our ignorance to make us believe Rumania is Kazakhstan - Everybody he encounters thereafter is American - Cohen uses Borat to mock stereotypical American[0] behaviour - I am aware just how much juvenile humour there was too [0] applies to most places, but the film is set in America
- IAmEveryone 7y agoBorat wasn't the stereotype of a Kazakh. It was the stereotype of a stereotype of a Kazakh.
- dijit 7y agoI thought it was a representation of our ignorance towards eastern culture. Even his opening lines are polish and nothing at all to do with Kazakh.. Playing on the west’s ignorance was the joke, and him convincingly reeling people in for interviews was the comedy. Not the character itself, the reaction to the character.