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It seems to me that most of the engineering is in the 'skateboard', There's no reason they can't sell the same chassis with two different bodies. - The cybertru

It seems to me that most of the engineering is in the 'skateboard', There's no reason they can't sell the same chassis with two different bodies. - The cybertruck for people who want that. - A more conventional body for anyone else.

wnkrshm 7y ago
I think there is some cost issue in making the car armored. With a sandwich material it would be way more feasible to put together planar cuts than to cold form them. Armor usually is pretty stiff.
- ianai 7y ago
  maybe once the reality of the armor sinks in people will re-evaluate the esthetics of it.
  - wnkrshm 7y ago
    I think it's sad though that people want to have an armored car that looks like a stealth fighter. It's also strange that you can sell it in a context of 'being prepared', with the offroad capability and everything - I don't know a better example for a vehicle being dependent on an always-on infrasructure than an armored electric truck.
    - sneak 7y ago
      > I think it's sad though that people want to have an armored car that looks like a stealth fighter. Why?
      - wnkrshm 7y ago
        Because it's not a car that is not armored and just looks like a stealth fighter. And because it's not a car that is armored and looks like a regular car. It seems to me people like the martial aesthetic and function(!) as a status symbol, maybe without reflecting why the martial aesthetic is what it is. To keep people in a metal shell with guns on it from being shredded. A civil society should find these things ugly but respect their necessity, not celebrate them. And if civil society has a real need for these things, it's in a sad state.
        sneak 7y ago
        What if it just looks cool because angular things made out of metal look cool, not because we are death fetishists or living in a dangerous society? Also, weapons and weaponry can be aesthetically pleasing without accepting the inevitability of violence.
        rpmisms 7y ago
        A civil society can also find martial design cool as hell.
    - SuoDuanDao 7y ago
      > I don't know a better example for a vehicle being dependent on an always-on infrasructure than an armored electric truck. Why? It is so, so much easier to produce your own electricity than your own gasoline. A truck running on slightly impure ethanol or gasified wood would still be more independent, but there are performance issues to consider there.
      - wnkrshm 7y ago
        After reading up a bit more I think I was too hasty with that statement. Getting a practical solar capacity is quite a lot cheaper than I imagined for many latitudes.

wnkrshm 7y ago

I think there is some cost issue in making the car armored. With a sandwich material it would be way more feasible to put together planar cuts than to cold form them. Armor usually is pretty stiff.

ianai 7y ago
maybe once the reality of the armor sinks in people will re-evaluate the esthetics of it.
- wnkrshm 7y ago
  I think it's sad though that people want to have an armored car that looks like a stealth fighter. It's also strange that you can sell it in a context of 'being prepared', with the offroad capability and everything - I don't know a better example for a vehicle being dependent on an always-on infrasructure than an armored electric truck.
  - sneak 7y ago
    > I think it's sad though that people want to have an armored car that looks like a stealth fighter. Why?
    - wnkrshm 7y ago
      Because it's not a car that is not armored and just looks like a stealth fighter. And because it's not a car that is armored and looks like a regular car. It seems to me people like the martial aesthetic and function(!) as a status symbol, maybe without reflecting why the martial aesthetic is what it is. To keep people in a metal shell with guns on it from being shredded. A civil society should find these things ugly but respect their necessity, not celebrate them. And if civil society has a real need for these things, it's in a sad state.
      - sneak 7y ago
        What if it just looks cool because angular things made out of metal look cool, not because we are death fetishists or living in a dangerous society? Also, weapons and weaponry can be aesthetically pleasing without accepting the inevitability of violence.
      - rpmisms 7y ago
        A civil society can also find martial design cool as hell.
  - SuoDuanDao 7y ago
    > I don't know a better example for a vehicle being dependent on an always-on infrasructure than an armored electric truck. Why? It is so, so much easier to produce your own electricity than your own gasoline. A truck running on slightly impure ethanol or gasified wood would still be more independent, but there are performance issues to consider there.
    - wnkrshm 7y ago
      After reading up a bit more I think I was too hasty with that statement. Getting a practical solar capacity is quite a lot cheaper than I imagined for many latitudes.