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In the grand scheme of things, what are the chances of getting in a car accident that leaves you alive, but traps you, and also causes life threatening injures

by kgwxd 7y ago

In the grand scheme of things, what are the chances of getting in a car accident that leaves you alive, but traps you, and also causes life threatening injures or situations, but only at the level where if first responders can't reach and extract you in the average amount of time? And how many people are afraid enough of becoming submerged in water to even have the tools necessary to shatter a regular window? And even if they have the tools, what are the chances they'd be in reach and that you'd be able enough to reach them?

ehnto 7y ago
Pretty high? You need only be unconcious to end up dying in a burning car because no one could extract you. Cars also deform in weird and chaotic ways in a real world accident, who knows what will be the final piece between you and safety. People sometimes exit via their rear windows because the front of the cabin is crushed and the glass there broke, but the doors and windshield frames were also crushed so you can't exit. Cars are pretty good at absorbing the impact so your body can tolerate it non-fatally, but you may still end up broken, trapped or simply unconcious.
- kgwxd 7y ago
  Or reinforced windows might be the thing that prevent injury and death in the unpredictable scenario someone ends up in. I'm just saying, I don't think a strong case could be made for or against stronger windows. Statistics might give a good idea over a long enough timeline, but until more people are driving around with stronger windows, getting in accidents, how can we be sure?
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  - xmprt 7y ago
    Unless you're worried about getting shot at while you're in your car or a random brick flying through the windshield then you don't need this.
    - solveit 7y ago
      You should be concerned about debris from the truck in front of you flying through your windshield. Unfortunately, I don't think anything short of an armoured hull will stop that. The stronger glass is useless.
tgsovlerkhgsel 7y ago
Doors unable to open + fire is all it takes.
- mirimir 7y ago
  So then you just need explosive bolts, right?
  - manigandham 7y ago
    The door is either bent and can't physically separate from the opening or it's jammed against something like a tree/rock/road/another vehicle. Either way explosive bolts wont help you. Breaking the window creates an instant smaller opening that's still big enough to get out of.
    - omgwtfbyobbq 7y ago
      All the doors would need to be bent and can't physically separate or jammed against something to prevent EMS from pulling someone out. It's possible, but unlikely.
      - mattlondon 7y ago
        Not really that unlikely I'd say. From major pile ups where you'd want to get our PDQ, accidents where the doors are pinned, to more mundane mistakes: https://www.tellwut.com/uploads/media/image/6511e1353649402o1244.jpg https://www.tellwut.com/uploads/media/image/6511e1353649402o... https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBTYqhk.img?h=468&w=624&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBTY... https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8kyf00w-pKY/Tnz1ztUQ8CI/AAAAAAAAAU4/RFlR9vRsgq4/s1600/SAM_1179.JPG https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8kyf00w-pKY/Tnz1ztUQ8CI/AAAAAAAAA... All it takes is some fire.
        omgwtfbyobbq 7y ago
        The second accident should be something EMS can pull someone out of from other doors. People would be stuck in the first and third, but those images don't show vehicles being incinerated. It's possible, but not likely to have both a multi-car or large vehicle pileup that blocks all the doors and a fire.
manigandham 7y ago
You can flip your question around and say what are the chances that you need stronger windows than the rest of the vehicles on the road?
- netwanderer3 7y ago
  I like your inversion method. For public consumers, we may need a stronger windshield glass for better protection, yes! For side windows though, probably not so much.
- mgarfias 7y ago
  Dude, I grew up in Fresno. Duck yes I want bullet proof glass.

by kgwxd 7y ago

ehnto 7y ago

Pretty high? You need only be unconcious to end up dying in a burning car because no one could extract you. Cars also deform in weird and chaotic ways in a real world accident, who knows what will be the final piece between you and safety. People sometimes exit via their rear windows because the front of the cabin is crushed and the glass there broke, but the doors and windshield frames were also crushed so you can't exit. Cars are pretty good at absorbing the impact so your body can tolerate it non-fatally, but you may still end up broken, trapped or simply unconcious.

kgwxd 7y ago
Or reinforced windows might be the thing that prevent injury and death in the unpredictable scenario someone ends up in. I'm just saying, I don't think a strong case could be made for or against stronger windows. Statistics might give a good idea over a long enough timeline, but until more people are driving around with stronger windows, getting in accidents, how can we be sure?
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- xmprt 7y ago
  Unless you're worried about getting shot at while you're in your car or a random brick flying through the windshield then you don't need this.
  - solveit 7y ago
    You should be concerned about debris from the truck in front of you flying through your windshield. Unfortunately, I don't think anything short of an armoured hull will stop that. The stronger glass is useless.

tgsovlerkhgsel 7y ago

Doors unable to open + fire is all it takes.

mirimir 7y ago
So then you just need explosive bolts, right?
- manigandham 7y ago
  The door is either bent and can't physically separate from the opening or it's jammed against something like a tree/rock/road/another vehicle. Either way explosive bolts wont help you. Breaking the window creates an instant smaller opening that's still big enough to get out of.
  - omgwtfbyobbq 7y ago
    All the doors would need to be bent and can't physically separate or jammed against something to prevent EMS from pulling someone out. It's possible, but unlikely.
    - mattlondon 7y ago
      Not really that unlikely I'd say. From major pile ups where you'd want to get our PDQ, accidents where the doors are pinned, to more mundane mistakes: https://www.tellwut.com/uploads/media/image/6511e1353649402o1244.jpg https://www.tellwut.com/uploads/media/image/6511e1353649402o... https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBTYqhk.img?h=468&w=624&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBTY... https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8kyf00w-pKY/Tnz1ztUQ8CI/AAAAAAAAAU4/RFlR9vRsgq4/s1600/SAM_1179.JPG https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8kyf00w-pKY/Tnz1ztUQ8CI/AAAAAAAAA... All it takes is some fire.
      - omgwtfbyobbq 7y ago
        The second accident should be something EMS can pull someone out of from other doors. People would be stuck in the first and third, but those images don't show vehicles being incinerated. It's possible, but not likely to have both a multi-car or large vehicle pileup that blocks all the doors and a fire.

manigandham 7y ago

You can flip your question around and say what are the chances that you need stronger windows than the rest of the vehicles on the road?

netwanderer3 7y ago
I like your inversion method. For public consumers, we may need a stronger windshield glass for better protection, yes! For side windows though, probably not so much.
mgarfias 7y ago
Dude, I grew up in Fresno. Duck yes I want bullet proof glass.