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It's more than a belief... the statistics bear it out. "The lowest 2015 death rate by vehicle type is for very large SUVs: 13 deaths per million registered vehi

It's more than a belief... the statistics bear it out. "The lowest 2015 death rate by vehicle type is for very large SUVs: 13 deaths per million registered vehicles. The highest is for mini cars: 64 deaths per million registered vehicles." https://www.edmunds.com/car-safety/are-smaller-cars-as-safe-as-large-cars.html https://www.edmunds.com/car-safety/are-smaller-cars-as-safe-...

randomsearch 7y ago
That could just mean SUV drivers drive less, or a myriad of other things. PG posted on Twitter a while back a study that showed SUVs were _less_ safe (per mile driven? I think).
- read_if_gay_ 7y ago
  Would really have to be a myriad of other things if that’s supposed to explain a 5x difference without the obvious reason for it.
  - randomsearch 7y ago
    What's the reason? That's it's bigger? But what if bigger cars crash more often? So yes, it does have to be thought about with clarity.
- IAmGraydon 7y ago
  This is a very simple matter of physics. Do you know what typically kills in a car crash? Extreme G-forces generated by near instantaneous deceleration. Big, heavy things have to expend more energy to decelerate, so they tend to do so at a relatively slower rate. Small things can be stopped very quickly. Therefore, someone in a big, heavy SUV is going to have much higher chances of survival than someone in a Mini.
  - JaRail 7y ago
    You're completely ignoring higher center of gravity and rollovers.
    - randomsearch 7y ago
      But more importantly, "deaths per registered car" is meaningless to an individual make a purchase.
- smrr723 7y ago
  It means that F=ma - the bigger you are, the safer you are. The driver of a small 2 seater car is going to be worse off than a huge semi if they both collide.
  - randomsearch 7y ago
    What you're talking about is "which is safer in a collision", which is an entirely different question from "which car is safer per mile to drive?"
- randomsearch 7y ago
  Ah, I found it: https://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/17/business/safety-gap-grows-wider-between-suv-s-and-cars.html https://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/17/business/safety-gap-grows... But the article was from 2003, unfortunately. Searching online I can't find statistics per mile driven, which is what you need to made the claims the replies to my posts are making.

randomsearch 7y ago

That could just mean SUV drivers drive less, or a myriad of other things. PG posted on Twitter a while back a study that showed SUVs were _less_ safe (per mile driven? I think).

read_if_gay_ 7y ago
Would really have to be a myriad of other things if that’s supposed to explain a 5x difference without the obvious reason for it.
- randomsearch 7y ago
  What's the reason? That's it's bigger? But what if bigger cars crash more often? So yes, it does have to be thought about with clarity.
IAmGraydon 7y ago
This is a very simple matter of physics. Do you know what typically kills in a car crash? Extreme G-forces generated by near instantaneous deceleration. Big, heavy things have to expend more energy to decelerate, so they tend to do so at a relatively slower rate. Small things can be stopped very quickly. Therefore, someone in a big, heavy SUV is going to have much higher chances of survival than someone in a Mini.
- JaRail 7y ago
  You're completely ignoring higher center of gravity and rollovers.
  - randomsearch 7y ago
    But more importantly, "deaths per registered car" is meaningless to an individual make a purchase.
smrr723 7y ago
It means that F=ma - the bigger you are, the safer you are. The driver of a small 2 seater car is going to be worse off than a huge semi if they both collide.
- randomsearch 7y ago
  What you're talking about is "which is safer in a collision", which is an entirely different question from "which car is safer per mile to drive?"
randomsearch 7y ago
Ah, I found it: https://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/17/business/safety-gap-grows-wider-between-suv-s-and-cars.html https://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/17/business/safety-gap-grows... But the article was from 2003, unfortunately. Searching online I can't find statistics per mile driven, which is what you need to made the claims the replies to my posts are making.