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NYT is not exactly a reliable source of news in China, actually none of US MSM are.

peteretep 7y ago
As compared to whom?
yorwba 7y ago
What about the Hong Kong government's own public broadcaster? https://gbcode.rthk.hk/TuniS/www.rthk.hk/tv/dtt31/programme/thepulse_chi/episode/583530 https://gbcode.rthk.hk/TuniS/www.rthk.hk/tv/dtt31/programme/...
ivalm 7y ago
Here is BBC (UK): https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48825090 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48825090, https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-48700786 https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-48700786, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47157111 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47157111 Here is Deutsche Welle (Germany): https://www.dw.com/en/how-china-intimidates-uighurs-abroad-by-threatening-their-families/a-49554977 https://www.dw.com/en/how-china-intimidates-uighurs-abroad-b... Here is Japan Times (Japan): https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/08/08/national/social-issues/uighurs-japan-speak-plight-kin-back-china/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/08/08/national/social... I could get more internationally sourced coverage if you really need. More or less the only MSM not covering the Uighur concentration camps are the Chinese MSM.
886 7y ago
I know my comment will be downvoted for sure because it isn't a popular idea, but I'm still gonna comment on this. Reading news about any foreign country, including China, only from US MSM, is inherently biased (sampling bias). Maybe consider reading news from Chinese outlets in this case? I know people will start arguing that Chinese outlets are mainly propagandas because they are controlled by governments and they are not independent... But, but are we sure that Deutsche Welle or Japan Times are unbiased? For example, Deutsche Welle is funded by German government. [1], and the editors of the Japan Times were appointed by their government [2]. Yes, German and Japanese governments are more trustworthy than the Chinese government, but every country has its own foreign policy and political agenda. Are we sure that we are not being "brainwashed" by those media outlets? This is happening within the US as well. Think conservative news outlets vs liberal outlets. Citations: [1] https://www.dw.com/en/what-kind-of-company-is-deutsche-welle/a-3252998 https://www.dw.com/en/what-kind-of-company-is-deutsche-welle... [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20110716064544/http://www.fccj.or.jp/node/2123 https://web.archive.org/web/20110716064544/http://www.fccj.o...
- learc83 7y ago
  Basically the entire world except for China including independent non profits is reporting on the internment camps. At this point you have to be actively trying to excuse them to believe they are fictional.

As compared to whom?

What about the Hong Kong government's own public broadcaster? https://gbcode.rthk.hk/TuniS/www.rthk.hk/tv/dtt31/programme/thepulse_chi/episode/583530 https://gbcode.rthk.hk/TuniS/www.rthk.hk/tv/dtt31/programme/...

ivalm 7y ago

Here is BBC (UK): https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48825090 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48825090, https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-48700786 https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-48700786, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47157111 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47157111 Here is Deutsche Welle (Germany): https://www.dw.com/en/how-china-intimidates-uighurs-abroad-by-threatening-their-families/a-49554977 https://www.dw.com/en/how-china-intimidates-uighurs-abroad-b... Here is Japan Times (Japan): https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/08/08/national/social-issues/uighurs-japan-speak-plight-kin-back-china/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/08/08/national/social... I could get more internationally sourced coverage if you really need. More or less the only MSM not covering the Uighur concentration camps are the Chinese MSM.

886 7y ago

I know my comment will be downvoted for sure because it isn't a popular idea, but I'm still gonna comment on this. Reading news about any foreign country, including China, only from US MSM, is inherently biased (sampling bias). Maybe consider reading news from Chinese outlets in this case? I know people will start arguing that Chinese outlets are mainly propagandas because they are controlled by governments and they are not independent... But, but are we sure that Deutsche Welle or Japan Times are unbiased? For example, Deutsche Welle is funded by German government. [1], and the editors of the Japan Times were appointed by their government [2]. Yes, German and Japanese governments are more trustworthy than the Chinese government, but every country has its own foreign policy and political agenda. Are we sure that we are not being "brainwashed" by those media outlets? This is happening within the US as well. Think conservative news outlets vs liberal outlets. Citations: [1] https://www.dw.com/en/what-kind-of-company-is-deutsche-welle/a-3252998 https://www.dw.com/en/what-kind-of-company-is-deutsche-welle... [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20110716064544/http://www.fccj.or.jp/node/2123 https://web.archive.org/web/20110716064544/http://www.fccj.o...

learc83 7y ago
Basically the entire world except for China including independent non profits is reporting on the internment camps. At this point you have to be actively trying to excuse them to believe they are fictional.