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I've never understood the appeal of the VR. I play games that benefit from low reaction time and precision and my body is the main source of latency and mistak

I've never understood the appeal of the VR. I play games that benefit from low reaction time and precision and my body is the main source of latency and mistakes. When I watch recordings of my own gameplay, I notice how my brain usually operates a few hundred milliseconds ahead of what my hands controlling mouse & keyboard are capable of executing. Throwing your untrained and sometimes unhealthy body into this mix doesn't seem like a beneficial strategy. Also, characters in the games I play do things that are completely impossible for a regular human body to accomplish. They're running faster, jumping higher, aim and swing swords better than I or any real human even could. Why would you want your character to be a mirror of your real-world tired and untrained self? They say that the biggest sell of VR is immersion. How can something be immersive when it has no capability to provide any kind of feedback besides audio/visual? You can't swing swords in VR cause it has no capability to communicate weight of the thing you're holding back to you. A light sword feels exactly the same as a huge two-handed sword because all you're actually carrying in a lightweight plastic controller. You can't punch a wall because there's nothing in reality to stop your hand from going through. You can't hide behind cover because the object you're trying to lean on doesn't exist in real life. You can't feel an impact of receiving a fatal blow or taking a rocket in your face, cause there's nothing to actually push you in real life. I think VR is dumb and I haven't seen any games yet that would want me to spend money on it. I was a huge fan of HL back in the day, but I guess I'm going to skip this one.

Ajedi32 7y ago
Have you tried it? You absolutely can do all those things you just described in VR. I understand why you might think it wouldn't feel realistic, because yes, the technology for realistic full-body tactile feedback isn't there yet. But I can assure you from personal experience; audio/visual feedback is more than enough to immerse you in the game even when the haptics don't precisely match what you'd feel doing the same thing in real life.
- bloody-crow 7y ago
  > You absolutely can do all those things you just described in VR I haven't seen a single VR game that allows you to do things a typical competitive FPS shooter character does or games like Dark Souls/Sekiro.
  - Ajedi32 7y ago
    Typical competitive FPS shooter => Medal of Honor: Above and Beyond, Pavlov, Onward Dark Souls => Asgard's Wrath, Blade and Sorcery Sekiro => Sairento VR, The Unbreakable Gumball In fact, I'd argue the reverse is true: I haven't seen a single flat screen game which allows you the same natural freedom of movement as VR games like Echo VR or Windlands do. Full 6DoF controllers enable a lot of possibilities for movement that just aren't feasible with a keyboard+mouse or controller.
erikbye 7y ago
So... have you tried VR?
- Sohcahtoa82 7y ago
  Of course they haven't. The people that are the most vocal against VR, calling it a gimmick and all, typically haven't tried it, or they're just simply not interested in video games to begin with. That's not to say that there are gamers that have tried VR and were unimpressed, but they're exceptionally rare.
  - bloody-crow 7y ago
    True, I haven't tried it, but not because I'm against it. I haven't tried it because I haven't seen a single VR title that'd look even remotely interesting and worth spending time on for me. > they're just simply not interested in video games to begin with This is blatantly untrue. I'm admittedly too interested in video games for my own good. I used to play competitively in my teens and spend too much time playing now in my 30s.
Sohcahtoa82 7y ago
> I've never understood the appeal of the VR. Try it before forming opinions, then. Look and see if there are any VR arcades near you. For only a few dollars, you can test out a lot of games.

Ajedi32 7y ago

Have you tried it? You absolutely can do all those things you just described in VR. I understand why you might think it wouldn't feel realistic, because yes, the technology for realistic full-body tactile feedback isn't there yet. But I can assure you from personal experience; audio/visual feedback is more than enough to immerse you in the game even when the haptics don't precisely match what you'd feel doing the same thing in real life.

bloody-crow 7y ago
> You absolutely can do all those things you just described in VR I haven't seen a single VR game that allows you to do things a typical competitive FPS shooter character does or games like Dark Souls/Sekiro.
- Ajedi32 7y ago
  Typical competitive FPS shooter => Medal of Honor: Above and Beyond, Pavlov, Onward Dark Souls => Asgard's Wrath, Blade and Sorcery Sekiro => Sairento VR, The Unbreakable Gumball In fact, I'd argue the reverse is true: I haven't seen a single flat screen game which allows you the same natural freedom of movement as VR games like Echo VR or Windlands do. Full 6DoF controllers enable a lot of possibilities for movement that just aren't feasible with a keyboard+mouse or controller.

erikbye 7y ago

So... have you tried VR?

Sohcahtoa82 7y ago
Of course they haven't. The people that are the most vocal against VR, calling it a gimmick and all, typically haven't tried it, or they're just simply not interested in video games to begin with. That's not to say that there are gamers that have tried VR and were unimpressed, but they're exceptionally rare.
- bloody-crow 7y ago
  True, I haven't tried it, but not because I'm against it. I haven't tried it because I haven't seen a single VR title that'd look even remotely interesting and worth spending time on for me. > they're just simply not interested in video games to begin with This is blatantly untrue. I'm admittedly too interested in video games for my own good. I used to play competitively in my teens and spend too much time playing now in my 30s.

Sohcahtoa82 7y ago

> I've never understood the appeal of the VR. Try it before forming opinions, then. Look and see if there are any VR arcades near you. For only a few dollars, you can test out a lot of games.