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This is truly a "The Sun"-tier comment. So many things are wrong. The EU did not mandate halogen bulbs, it phased out incandescent bulbs, with many exceptions f

This is truly a "The Sun"-tier comment. So many things are wrong. The EU did not mandate halogen bulbs, it phased out incandescent bulbs, with many exceptions for situations and use-cases where alternatives are inadequate. You can (and should) buy LEDs which are many times more efficient and cheaper (per hour of life) that incandescent bulbs. Finally, halogen bulbs are not only not "mandated" but actually in the processed of being phased out as well.

the-dude 7y ago
This is truly a comment with a sign-of-the-times : polarisation. "There is something wrong in your statement. You must be a deplorable." Thank you for participating in this forum.
- uhhhhhhh 7y ago
  The comparison was to the Sun, which implies uninformed and inaccurate. Your projection of "deplorable" is all of your own making. A sign of the times, people being unable to accept being told they are wrong.
  - the-dude 7y ago
    I'll refer to my sibling comment : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21597651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21597651 Thank you.
- andrepd 7y ago
  I never said the poster was a "deplorable", so you must be projecting. The reference to The Scum is due to the fact that British tabloids have a recurring trope of making up ludicrous facts about "totalitarian EU regulations". I hope I cleared up that misunderstanding.
big_chungus 7y ago
LEDs still have PWM flicker and buzzing problems. This is unpleasant, inhibits focus, and makes them inadequate for me in all cases. Perhaps the fancy "smart bulbs" aren't as bad, but I don't have $125 for a single light bulb. I also don't want to fiddle around with my lighting and by multiple $125 bulbs until one works. I just want to put in a bulb and be done. The only lighting which has successfully done that for me has been incandescent or halogen.
- baybal2 7y ago
  If you see flicker, then you bought an LED lamp with a wrong kind of driver. You can dim LEDs to zero without any visible flicker if the circuit is designed properly
- nicoburns 7y ago
  Smart bulbs often aren't any better than cheap ones. But there are people doing high quality ones (high CRI, and no flicker). These ones for example: https://store.waveformlighting.com/collections/a19-bulbs/products/centric-home-full-spectrum-flicker-free-a19-10w-led-bulb https://store.waveformlighting.com/collections/a19-bulbs/pro... There are cheaper ones that are good too, but I can't remember the name.
  - NullPrefix 7y ago
    > Smart bulbs often aren't any better than cheap ones. But they can have telemetry.
- raverbashing 7y ago
  You must be getting the absolute worse brand of LED lamp to have PWM flicker or using a crap dimer (or alternatively, have vision way beyond 60fps) I have none of those problems with LED lamps that certainly didn't cost $125 (more like between 5x and 10x cheaper) and none of them buzz
  - Majromax 7y ago
    > You must be getting the absolute worse brand of LED lamp to have PWM flicker or using a crap dimer Related: is there any good source of reviews for LED bulbs that go into flicker (I seem to notice 120Hz flicker) and CRI? My local hardware store stocks a relatively paltry selection of bulbs (all built to cost), and I'm reluctant to experiment with the medium-size orders necessary to make shipping worthwhile.
- gsich 7y ago
  Not all use PWM.

the-dude 7y ago

This is truly a comment with a sign-of-the-times : polarisation. "There is something wrong in your statement. You must be a deplorable." Thank you for participating in this forum.

uhhhhhhh 7y ago
The comparison was to the Sun, which implies uninformed and inaccurate. Your projection of "deplorable" is all of your own making. A sign of the times, people being unable to accept being told they are wrong.
- the-dude 7y ago
  I'll refer to my sibling comment : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21597651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21597651 Thank you.
andrepd 7y ago
I never said the poster was a "deplorable", so you must be projecting. The reference to The Scum is due to the fact that British tabloids have a recurring trope of making up ludicrous facts about "totalitarian EU regulations". I hope I cleared up that misunderstanding.

big_chungus 7y ago

LEDs still have PWM flicker and buzzing problems. This is unpleasant, inhibits focus, and makes them inadequate for me in all cases. Perhaps the fancy "smart bulbs" aren't as bad, but I don't have $125 for a single light bulb. I also don't want to fiddle around with my lighting and by multiple $125 bulbs until one works. I just want to put in a bulb and be done. The only lighting which has successfully done that for me has been incandescent or halogen.

baybal2 7y ago
If you see flicker, then you bought an LED lamp with a wrong kind of driver. You can dim LEDs to zero without any visible flicker if the circuit is designed properly
nicoburns 7y ago
Smart bulbs often aren't any better than cheap ones. But there are people doing high quality ones (high CRI, and no flicker). These ones for example: https://store.waveformlighting.com/collections/a19-bulbs/products/centric-home-full-spectrum-flicker-free-a19-10w-led-bulb https://store.waveformlighting.com/collections/a19-bulbs/pro... There are cheaper ones that are good too, but I can't remember the name.
- NullPrefix 7y ago
  > Smart bulbs often aren't any better than cheap ones. But they can have telemetry.
raverbashing 7y ago
You must be getting the absolute worse brand of LED lamp to have PWM flicker or using a crap dimer (or alternatively, have vision way beyond 60fps) I have none of those problems with LED lamps that certainly didn't cost $125 (more like between 5x and 10x cheaper) and none of them buzz
- Majromax 7y ago
  > You must be getting the absolute worse brand of LED lamp to have PWM flicker or using a crap dimer Related: is there any good source of reviews for LED bulbs that go into flicker (I seem to notice 120Hz flicker) and CRI? My local hardware store stocks a relatively paltry selection of bulbs (all built to cost), and I'm reluctant to experiment with the medium-size orders necessary to make shipping worthwhile.
gsich 7y ago
Not all use PWM.