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A good model will be to start working on a new startup with a competing product as soon as google launches something. In couple of years when they shut down, pr
by iamsb 7y ago
A good model will be to start working on a new startup with a competing product as soon as google launches something. In couple of years when they shut down, provide migration paths. Swim in $$$.
- kozhevnikov 7y agoSunset Chasers™
- iamsb 7y agoJust dont sell the startup to google again and keep building the same product over and over again. :)
- macinjosh 7y agoThe worlds first recursive startup.
- notmyaccount 7y agoBecome Trillionaire??!!
- TMWNN 7y agoTell that to Craig Walker[1]: * Founds telephony company Dialpad, sells to Yahoo. (I think it was the basis of Yahoo's search-via-phone-call service.) * Founds telephony company Grand Central, sells to Google, is basis of Google Voice. * Founds telephony company Dialpad (he bought back the name and domain). [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/google-voice-founders-raised-50-million-to-scale-dialpad-2018-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/google-voice-founders-raised...
- marricks 7y agoI wonder about the damage Google does to any potential start ups in a field. How much buzz can you get when everyone’s first thought is “how could this be any good? Google already tried that and failed...”
- rurp 7y agoI don't know, Google has failed at all kinds of products that other companies have achieved massive success with. This includes some really ubiquitous tools like a social network (Google+) or messaging apps (too many to list). I think at this point most people assume a failed project from Google has more to do with the company than the concept itself.
- iforgotpassword 7y agoBut these are all things where Google was late to the game and didn't succeed in taking someone's crown. So it's an interesting question: How does Google failing at some product that isn't already a well established concept impact the consumer's sentiment towards the idea behind it.
- iamsb 7y agoFWIW Google had orkut long before facebook became a success and moved out of colleges. Google had gtalk long before WhatsApp was conceived.
- LMMojo 7y agoOrkut was pretty much killed in the English speaking world by the Brazilian Portuguese speakers which took over any group which was created. They pushed every photography, climbing and Linux group to the point where, as a non-Portuguese speaker, the site became way more noise than signal. You could flash a group as being for a specific language, but it wasn't enforced when someone violated this. Orkut admins ignored complaints and the malfeasanant posters rebutted with something which might translated to "who's going to make me?" So, it became a useless site because there were no teeth to the rules.
- TMWNN 7y ago>Orkut was pretty much killed in the English speaking world by the Brazilian Portuguese speakers which took over any group which was created. They pushed every photography, climbing and Linux group to the point where, as a non-Portuguese speaker, the site became way more noise than signal. This is the source of the HUEHUEHUE meme https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/huahuehuahue https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/huahuehuahue . There's even an academic study on the Brazilian online cultural traits that cause such problems in Orkut! https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265844216_'HUEHUEHUE'_'BRBR'_THE_CARNIVALESQUE_GRIEFING_BEHAVIOUR_OF_BRAZILIAN_ONLINE_GAMERS https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265844216_'HUEHUEHU...
- akerro 7y agoThey remove you from search results and you go bankrupt.
- daveFNbuck 7y agoWhen I search for rss reader on Google, Feedly is the second result right under a roundup article listing Google Reader alternatives.
- akerro 7y agohttps://protonmail.com/blog/search-risk-google/ https://protonmail.com/blog/search-risk-google/
- daveFNbuck 7y agoThat's a competitor to a product that Google is very clearly not shutting down.
- pytester 7y agoThat only works for products people actually like. I can think of maybe one product where this was a good model.
- monocasa 7y agoHow does one provide migration paths when Google owns the data, licenses, etc. on their servers? Just one of many ways that Service as a Software Substitute reduces user freedom.
- sjs382 7y agoGoogle will provide you with downloads your data for a lot of their projects: https://takeout.google.com/ https://takeout.google.com/
- adambyrtek 7y agoSure but how would that work for Stadia?
- sjs382 7y agoWith Stadia, this concept probably relates more to game saves more so than games. [0] It's just your data—finding something that can use the data is another story. That's beside the point, though—my reply, it's parent and it's grandparent were discussing Google products generally, not Stadia specifically. [0] I realize that Takeout doesn't support Stadia. Though, for two different Stadia titles (Destiny 2's "cross-play" and NBA2K20's "MyPlayer"), I was prompted to log into a publisher account where my data could be linked/stored or something.
- d1zzy 7y agoThat would be true if you're thinking of Stadia as a subscription to get access to an all you can eat buffet of games (ie Netflix for games) but that's not the primary model proposed. The primary Stadia purchase model is that you buy games on Stadia and then get "free" unlimited streaming of them. In that case if they were to shutdown the user has to get something back, preferably the game...
- anoncake 7y ago
- dylan-m 7y agoThis is, to some extent, what Feedly did. They started off as a really nice, somewhat niche magazine-style news reader built on Google Reader. When Google Reader shut down, it was in their best interest to implement the API themselves. They had the very clever idea to make that a _public_ API, just like Google Reader, so in the end all kinds of apps and services wanted to use it, and it seems they're doing really well. (I'm still a big fan of their own news reader, and have a Feedly t-shirt somewhere…). I'd be very interested to hear the full story of the Google Reader debacle from their end :)
- CobrastanJorji 7y agoFeedly was amazingly positioned for that. Their two signature featuers were: 1.) it looked and worked almost exactly like Google Reader, and 2.) it could import your Google Reader feeds with one click. Within months of Google announcing Reader's closing, Feedly had acquired something like 8 million new users. Amazing stroke of fortune for a well-deserving product. I still happily use the free version.
- blueberry_47 7y agoEven though I don't use any of the Pro features, I still pay for Pro to help support in anyway I think I can. Love Feedly.
- Semaphor 7y ago2) is what almost every new service could do. And 1) I don’t understand. Feedly was one of the first ones I tried, and none of the settings I tried got me close to a headline-only view that I used in GReader. I used Newsblur for a while and am on TT-RSS nowadays. But Feedly always seemed to cater more to those people who enjoy image-heavy subreddits and full-page hero images, or pinterest. Nothing I tried with Feedly got me a simple, no distraction one-line, click to expand downwards view. Note that all of this was around when GReader closed, no idea what changed.
- blueberry_47 7y ago
- eitland 7y agoidlewords did something similar with pinboard.in, only 1. It was Yahoo (del.icio.us) not Google and 2. I think he didn't start until at a later stage. (I'm an happy early user of pinboard.in)
- foobiekr 7y agoWell. They just announced Google Cloud Print's death [1] so, anyone interested? [1] https://9to5google.com/2019/11/21/google-cloud-print-dead-2020/ https://9to5google.com/2019/11/21/google-cloud-print-dead-20...
- sireat 7y agoI seem to remember that Google Cloud Print was the only way you were supposed to print on early Chromebooks. At least the current Chromebooks let you print on a networked printer.
- aagha 7y agoYour post reminds me of those occasional posts where an entrepreneur will post something like: I started a company and now Google has built a near exact copy. Something in the past the entrepreneur should have been worried about. Now, I agree with you: Sit back and wait for Google to pull it, and profit.