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3 FTEs and a contractor feels like a crapton to this longtime bootstrapper!

njharman 16y ago
3 FTE's and a contractor seem 4-500,000 to me who knows nothning and would want to run a year before going broke. curious what others think is 150k/yr per fte (sallry, taxes, benifits, equipment, office) high or low
- mgkimsal 16y ago
  I think that's a bit high - possibly a lot high. You can likely find quite good qualified people at $70-$80k - base of $50k plus benefits and overhead. Be prepared to offer some equity stake in the operation in exchange for that somewhat lower base salary.
  - jussij 16y ago
    > I think that's a bit high - possibly a lot high This seems very low to me. Let's assume 3 employees at your rather low rate. That's: 3 x $70k = $210k. So all you money is now gone. With no money left how are you going to pay the rent, pay for equiment, pay for any other day to day business expenses (i.e. phone, electricity, insurance, taxes etc). I'd say $200k is even too low for 2 employees (in any western country).
    - SeoxyS 16y ago
      That's assuming he's taking money for a full year… In reality, he's not paying the employees a year's salary upfront, so at this point all he really needs to have in cash is the first couple months' salary. Imagine that he's going off 6 months, at which point he would reassess the financial situation (whether he needs to raise more money, lay off, or is now making enough profits to pay for the team.) Just a thought…
- noodle 16y ago
  depends on location.
- random42 16y ago
  You are assuming that the company has 0 revenue/profit.
- fhars 16y ago
  When I was still in market research, we used a rate of 150000€ per FTE as as heuristic to convert between number of empolyees and gross revenue whenever one of the numbers was missing. But this number is mostly for businesses that move inventory. Since software startups usually do not have to stockpile luxury cars in the showroom, the number might be too high in this field.

3 FTE's and a contractor seem 4-500,000 to me who knows nothning and would want to run a year before going broke. curious what others think is 150k/yr per fte (sallry, taxes, benifits, equipment, office) high or low

mgkimsal 16y ago
I think that's a bit high - possibly a lot high. You can likely find quite good qualified people at $70-$80k - base of $50k plus benefits and overhead. Be prepared to offer some equity stake in the operation in exchange for that somewhat lower base salary.
- jussij 16y ago
  > I think that's a bit high - possibly a lot high This seems very low to me. Let's assume 3 employees at your rather low rate. That's: 3 x $70k = $210k. So all you money is now gone. With no money left how are you going to pay the rent, pay for equiment, pay for any other day to day business expenses (i.e. phone, electricity, insurance, taxes etc). I'd say $200k is even too low for 2 employees (in any western country).
  - SeoxyS 16y ago
    That's assuming he's taking money for a full year… In reality, he's not paying the employees a year's salary upfront, so at this point all he really needs to have in cash is the first couple months' salary. Imagine that he's going off 6 months, at which point he would reassess the financial situation (whether he needs to raise more money, lay off, or is now making enough profits to pay for the team.) Just a thought…
noodle 16y ago
depends on location.
random42 16y ago
You are assuming that the company has 0 revenue/profit.
fhars 16y ago
When I was still in market research, we used a rate of 150000€ per FTE as as heuristic to convert between number of empolyees and gross revenue whenever one of the numbers was missing. But this number is mostly for businesses that move inventory. Since software startups usually do not have to stockpile luxury cars in the showroom, the number might be too high in this field.