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Hey let's just circle-jerk about how evil China is instead of trying to fix problems in our own country. > - greatest polluter of water via plastics Which tot

Hey let's just circle-jerk about how evil China is instead of trying to fix problems in our own country. > - greatest polluter of water via plastics Which totally isn't in large parts due to the whole West exporting their trash there for years for "recycling", fully aware of the fact they just dump it in the ocean or burn it under the bare sky. But why blame the ones in charge on our side that made that happen and kept doing it for years? It takes effort! and what if they actually stop? There'd be one thing less to shit on China about! > - greatest blue collared jobs/ communities destroyers in Italy, France, Spain, UK, US, Japan Yeah same thing, why blame the companies that actively move production and jobs over to China? Much easier to just go "took our jobs", like some evil Chinese came here with big suitcases, stuffed all our jobs in there and left.

riversflow 7y ago
This is flat out false. > Which totally isn't in large parts due to the whole West exporting their trash there for years for "recycling", fully aware of the fact they just dump it in the ocean or burn it under the bare sky There was /not/ much awareness about this in the West. People would not be so good about recycling if there was, as people generally thought they were doing a good thing by recycling and wouldn’t have bothered otherwise(at least in my experience). And nothing excuses fraud, which is what it’s called when you lie about what you are doing. China committed fraud in the recycling business and that’s not okay, no buts about it. The Chinese “took our jobs” by not following the rules we have about how those jobs should be done. We should have tariffed them for not living up to our Environmental and Occupational Safety standards, if our government was principled in its ethics. It’s not the corporation’s fault the US government is cool with externalities in other countries.

riversflow 7y ago

This is flat out false. > Which totally isn't in large parts due to the whole West exporting their trash there for years for "recycling", fully aware of the fact they just dump it in the ocean or burn it under the bare sky There was /not/ much awareness about this in the West. People would not be so good about recycling if there was, as people generally thought they were doing a good thing by recycling and wouldn’t have bothered otherwise(at least in my experience). And nothing excuses fraud, which is what it’s called when you lie about what you are doing. China committed fraud in the recycling business and that’s not okay, no buts about it. The Chinese “took our jobs” by not following the rules we have about how those jobs should be done. We should have tariffed them for not living up to our Environmental and Occupational Safety standards, if our government was principled in its ethics. It’s not the corporation’s fault the US government is cool with externalities in other countries.