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Except Android/iOS, everything you listed is dead or dying. No sane person would pick anything but Electron for a desktop app today, unless you are in a partic

Except Android/iOS, everything you listed is dead or dying. No sane person would pick anything but Electron for a desktop app today, unless you are in a particularly high performance domain (CAD/Graphics/Video/...)

kcolford 7y ago
Are you kidding me? There are many reasons to pick a non-electron platform without the need for particularly high performance. Android/iOS are good examples of the reasons why. There's just so much to be had by integrating with the OS and the environment that the user uses your tool in. Electron is great for a prototype or as a way to get your feet wet in improving the desktop experience. The best user experiences will always be founded on the native technologies of the target platform. Edit: spelling errors
pjmlp 7y ago
If they don't have any respect for their users I guess.
- notthatharda 7y ago
  Only if by users you mean people living in the terminal. Yeah, those people hate GUIs, compositing desktops and anything more than monospaced text. Just whisper "Emoji" in their ear and witness the Wrath of Khan unleashed. I would say exactly the opposite, not using web-tech for GUIs is disrespecting the users, because the end result is an ugly app with a lot of missing features (gif/image/emoji support for example). Users seem to love their VS Code/Discord apps written in Electron. I wonder why.
  - pjmlp 7y ago
    Because they offer a gratis plugin eco-system over the competition that outweighs the disadvantage of running a memory hungry application. Other than VSCode, my computers are free from Electron virus.
  - bsagdiyev 7y ago
    I don't want gif/image/emoji support in 100% of the apps I use, so this point is silly. I dislike Electron apps because they tend to break with the OS UI and force whatever the developer thinks I want on me. I don't. Stop it.
AlchemistCamp 7y ago
> No sane person would pick anything but Electron for a desktop app today, unless you are in a particularly high performance domain (CAD/Graphics/Video/...) People who don't hate their users or who don't hate the environment might. Electron apps use lots of CPU, lots of RAM and lots of energy. I get that they're easy for web devs to make and I've made them before but I'd fight tooth and nail against launching one at scale (like Slack did, for example).
- notthatharda 7y ago
  Well, if you make the energy argument, theres a lot more to cut then. How about high resolution displays? And bit depths? We can perfectly work on a 1024x768x256 colors screen. Imagine how much CPU/GPU cycles that would save.

kcolford 7y ago

Are you kidding me? There are many reasons to pick a non-electron platform without the need for particularly high performance. Android/iOS are good examples of the reasons why. There's just so much to be had by integrating with the OS and the environment that the user uses your tool in. Electron is great for a prototype or as a way to get your feet wet in improving the desktop experience. The best user experiences will always be founded on the native technologies of the target platform. Edit: spelling errors

pjmlp 7y ago

If they don't have any respect for their users I guess.

notthatharda 7y ago
Only if by users you mean people living in the terminal. Yeah, those people hate GUIs, compositing desktops and anything more than monospaced text. Just whisper "Emoji" in their ear and witness the Wrath of Khan unleashed. I would say exactly the opposite, not using web-tech for GUIs is disrespecting the users, because the end result is an ugly app with a lot of missing features (gif/image/emoji support for example). Users seem to love their VS Code/Discord apps written in Electron. I wonder why.
- pjmlp 7y ago
  Because they offer a gratis plugin eco-system over the competition that outweighs the disadvantage of running a memory hungry application. Other than VSCode, my computers are free from Electron virus.
- bsagdiyev 7y ago
  I don't want gif/image/emoji support in 100% of the apps I use, so this point is silly. I dislike Electron apps because they tend to break with the OS UI and force whatever the developer thinks I want on me. I don't. Stop it.

AlchemistCamp 7y ago

> No sane person would pick anything but Electron for a desktop app today, unless you are in a particularly high performance domain (CAD/Graphics/Video/...) People who don't hate their users or who don't hate the environment might. Electron apps use lots of CPU, lots of RAM and lots of energy. I get that they're easy for web devs to make and I've made them before but I'd fight tooth and nail against launching one at scale (like Slack did, for example).

notthatharda 7y ago
Well, if you make the energy argument, theres a lot more to cut then. How about high resolution displays? And bit depths? We can perfectly work on a 1024x768x256 colors screen. Imagine how much CPU/GPU cycles that would save.