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My dad's side of the family is in Georgia. You couldn't pay me $300k to deal with the racism in rural Georgia. Yes not all people out there are bad, but there's

My dad's side of the family is in Georgia. You couldn't pay me $300k to deal with the racism in rural Georgia. Yes not all people out there are bad, but there's enough I'd rather line elsewhere.

zionic 7y ago
Are sweeping generalizations of almost 11 million people the kind of comment we want to encourage on HN?
- linuxuser001 7y ago
  Yeah we should keep it a secret how racist America is.
  - nec4b 7y ago
    Could you please link to some data or at least share you personal experience of how racist America is today?
    - linuxuser001 7y ago
      You can do it yourself I guess whites are the lazy ones.
      - nec4b 7y ago
        I see that you are not a stranger to racism your self. Calling a billion people lazy because because of their skin color is really classy.
    - linuxuser001 7y ago
      Personal? I guess, I'm Central American, and just because of how I look I get followed at the mall and every 2 minutes I get asked "is everything okay sir?" Obviously they think I'm there to steal something. In Denver I went to a restaurant I overheard "why do I have to serve that spic". So okay no racism in America right? You idiot.
      - nec4b 7y ago
        Judging by your demeanor here, i guess that might be the problem why people are not comfortable around you.
- xpe 7y ago
  The commenter did not say all in Georgia are racist; he said ‘enough’ are to concern him. Discussing cultural factors and our perceptions of them are fair game, especially in this thread, because they affect the relocation thought process. I invite people to weigh in on the degree of racism across regions and states. I would like to see if there are ways to get more specific with data, though I don’t demand it. There are many aspects of society that are not easy to measure. That lack of data does not mean we should not talk about our experiences and perceptions.
- spumoni 7y ago
  every day I look at it, this site has become increasingly anti-White. we need to speak up more about this.
- erikerikson 7y ago
  Not all means exists some. It includes at least one. The further qualification reinforces the more narrow scoping. An existential generalization seems inherently not sweeping. This is not to mention the personal connection to people with direct experiences (although perhaps availability bias).
- nec4b 7y ago
  It's called virtue signaling. His group is the best and everyone else is despicable.
throwaway34526 7y ago
Agreed. I also grew up in a semi rural town, on the East Coast, and I wouldn’t ever want to go back. If you’re a minority, in an interracial relationship, or are LGBT, living in a rural area can have serious quality of life issues that often aren’t mentioned.
- _mentioned 7y ago
  "often aren't mentioned"? Nothing could be further from the truth. Literally 100% of the time that anywhere in the US outside of the major tech cities gets brought up, the comments are full of people claiming that the inhabitants of those areas are racist, stupid, dangerous, unwelcoming, or otherwise bad and undesirable to be near. The double-standards on this website are mind boggling, for how casually and openly people will believe negative stereotypes and repeat discriminatory beliefs when the 'out group' is rural, southern, or even just non-coastal.
  - mepiethree 7y ago
    The false dichotomy is that you either live in the bay area or the deep south. Forget about Chicago, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Providence, Minneapolis, DC... these places might as well not exist in the mind of HN
  - TomVDB 7y ago
    If 25% of the population of a town were rapists, would you agree with the characterization that that town is full of rapists and to stay away from there? In my daily sheltered life in the Bay Area, I hardly ever see overt racism. And when it happens, it bothers me. If I’d see it happen on a daily basis, it would seriously impact my quality of life. I see nothing wrong with saying: don’t move to this or that place because racism is rampant, even if 75% of inhabitants are not.
    - lwhalen 7y ago
      You're making a (large, most likely incorrect) assumption that 25% of a given town is made up of ra(p|c)ists. I suspect if you got down to it, you'd find it's most like 1% or less in the 'bad' areas, and the major difference of the makeup between 'rural' and 'coastal-urban' is that 1% in the rural area is incredibly vocal. See 'the three Cooters theory of Internet Discourse' https://monsterhunternation.com/2019/07/16/the-three-cooters-theory-of-internet-discourse/ https://monsterhunternation.com/2019/07/16/the-three-cooters...
justaguyhere 7y ago
I'm an immigrant and I am not white. I've only lived in big cities (NYC) and a handful of smaller, but progressive cities. I'd never be able to buy even a one bedroom apartment in a place like NYC - would love to move to a rural place, with less traffic/noise/pollution etc. These kinds of comments scare me off...

My dad's side of the family is in Georgia. You couldn't pay me $300k to deal with the racism in rural Georgia. Yes not all people out there are bad, but there's enough I'd rather line elsewhere.

zionic 7y ago

Are sweeping generalizations of almost 11 million people the kind of comment we want to encourage on HN?

linuxuser001 7y ago
Yeah we should keep it a secret how racist America is.
- nec4b 7y ago
  Could you please link to some data or at least share you personal experience of how racist America is today?
  - linuxuser001 7y ago
    You can do it yourself I guess whites are the lazy ones.
    - nec4b 7y ago
      I see that you are not a stranger to racism your self. Calling a billion people lazy because because of their skin color is really classy.
  - linuxuser001 7y ago
    Personal? I guess, I'm Central American, and just because of how I look I get followed at the mall and every 2 minutes I get asked "is everything okay sir?" Obviously they think I'm there to steal something. In Denver I went to a restaurant I overheard "why do I have to serve that spic". So okay no racism in America right? You idiot.
    - nec4b 7y ago
      Judging by your demeanor here, i guess that might be the problem why people are not comfortable around you.
xpe 7y ago
The commenter did not say all in Georgia are racist; he said ‘enough’ are to concern him. Discussing cultural factors and our perceptions of them are fair game, especially in this thread, because they affect the relocation thought process. I invite people to weigh in on the degree of racism across regions and states. I would like to see if there are ways to get more specific with data, though I don’t demand it. There are many aspects of society that are not easy to measure. That lack of data does not mean we should not talk about our experiences and perceptions.
spumoni 7y ago
every day I look at it, this site has become increasingly anti-White. we need to speak up more about this.
erikerikson 7y ago
Not all means exists some. It includes at least one. The further qualification reinforces the more narrow scoping. An existential generalization seems inherently not sweeping. This is not to mention the personal connection to people with direct experiences (although perhaps availability bias).
nec4b 7y ago
It's called virtue signaling. His group is the best and everyone else is despicable.

throwaway34526 7y ago

Agreed. I also grew up in a semi rural town, on the East Coast, and I wouldn’t ever want to go back. If you’re a minority, in an interracial relationship, or are LGBT, living in a rural area can have serious quality of life issues that often aren’t mentioned.

_mentioned 7y ago
"often aren't mentioned"? Nothing could be further from the truth. Literally 100% of the time that anywhere in the US outside of the major tech cities gets brought up, the comments are full of people claiming that the inhabitants of those areas are racist, stupid, dangerous, unwelcoming, or otherwise bad and undesirable to be near. The double-standards on this website are mind boggling, for how casually and openly people will believe negative stereotypes and repeat discriminatory beliefs when the 'out group' is rural, southern, or even just non-coastal.
- mepiethree 7y ago
  The false dichotomy is that you either live in the bay area or the deep south. Forget about Chicago, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Providence, Minneapolis, DC... these places might as well not exist in the mind of HN
- TomVDB 7y ago
  If 25% of the population of a town were rapists, would you agree with the characterization that that town is full of rapists and to stay away from there? In my daily sheltered life in the Bay Area, I hardly ever see overt racism. And when it happens, it bothers me. If I’d see it happen on a daily basis, it would seriously impact my quality of life. I see nothing wrong with saying: don’t move to this or that place because racism is rampant, even if 75% of inhabitants are not.
  - lwhalen 7y ago
    You're making a (large, most likely incorrect) assumption that 25% of a given town is made up of ra(p|c)ists. I suspect if you got down to it, you'd find it's most like 1% or less in the 'bad' areas, and the major difference of the makeup between 'rural' and 'coastal-urban' is that 1% in the rural area is incredibly vocal. See 'the three Cooters theory of Internet Discourse' https://monsterhunternation.com/2019/07/16/the-three-cooters-theory-of-internet-discourse/ https://monsterhunternation.com/2019/07/16/the-three-cooters...

justaguyhere 7y ago

I'm an immigrant and I am not white. I've only lived in big cities (NYC) and a handful of smaller, but progressive cities. I'd never be able to buy even a one bedroom apartment in a place like NYC - would love to move to a rural place, with less traffic/noise/pollution etc. These kinds of comments scare me off...