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I actually support this, despite being a strong advocate for privacy. Statistically, assault by Uber drivers is really rare, but enough people take enough ride

I actually support this, despite being a strong advocate for privacy. Statistically, assault by Uber drivers is really rare, but enough people take enough rides that I know multiple people who have had these experiences. Uber needs to have super-strict privacy controls and auditing on this, but it'll make a lot of people, especially women, feel more comfortable with taking Ubers.

loriverkutya 7y ago
Or instead of this, actually put an effective vetting system in place for drivers. That would not require super-strict privacy control and the inevitable hack. (having this data would make uber the most juicy target for spy agencies)
- burkaman 7y ago
  There is no vetting system that can separate criminals from "normal people", beyond looking at obvious stuff like past convictions. Sex offenders don't look or act any different than the rest of us.
- vorpalhex 7y ago
  Given Uber's history, this feature is almost certainly not "for the good of the consumer". Audio data has a lot of value these days, and I imagine Uber has a lot to gain from having a large trove of it.
- dwoozle 7y ago
  Why would this data be so valuable? In an Uber people are with a stranger in their car so they will probably not have super confidential conversations.
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magduf 7y ago
Personally, I think it's a good idea and I wonder why they didn't do it long ago. As for privacy, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place. An Uber car isn't any more private in theory than a train or subway. If you want privacy, stay at home or get your own car. Uber already knows where you're going if you use their service, so this only gives them access to any conversations you might have. Simple: keep your mouth shut in the car. Why would you have a super-private conversation in a cab anyway, with some stranger who's driving you right there?
- deogeo 7y ago
  > Simple: keep your mouth shut Truly the best solution to privacy erosion.
  - magduf 7y ago
    I'm not sure why you think you should deserve any privacy in a conversation when you have that conversation right next to some stranger. If you want something to be private, you don't do it in public. This should be self-evident, hence why the terms "public" and "private" usually function as antonyms.
- eyepea2007 7y ago
  There's an interesting law review article that covers expectations of privacy in uber / lyft: https://ecollections.law.fiu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1353&context=lawreview https://ecollections.law.fiu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article...

loriverkutya 7y ago

Or instead of this, actually put an effective vetting system in place for drivers. That would not require super-strict privacy control and the inevitable hack. (having this data would make uber the most juicy target for spy agencies)

burkaman 7y ago
There is no vetting system that can separate criminals from "normal people", beyond looking at obvious stuff like past convictions. Sex offenders don't look or act any different than the rest of us.
vorpalhex 7y ago
Given Uber's history, this feature is almost certainly not "for the good of the consumer". Audio data has a lot of value these days, and I imagine Uber has a lot to gain from having a large trove of it.
dwoozle 7y ago
Why would this data be so valuable? In an Uber people are with a stranger in their car so they will probably not have super confidential conversations.
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magduf 7y ago

Personally, I think it's a good idea and I wonder why they didn't do it long ago. As for privacy, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place. An Uber car isn't any more private in theory than a train or subway. If you want privacy, stay at home or get your own car. Uber already knows where you're going if you use their service, so this only gives them access to any conversations you might have. Simple: keep your mouth shut in the car. Why would you have a super-private conversation in a cab anyway, with some stranger who's driving you right there?

deogeo 7y ago
> Simple: keep your mouth shut Truly the best solution to privacy erosion.
- magduf 7y ago
  I'm not sure why you think you should deserve any privacy in a conversation when you have that conversation right next to some stranger. If you want something to be private, you don't do it in public. This should be self-evident, hence why the terms "public" and "private" usually function as antonyms.
eyepea2007 7y ago
There's an interesting law review article that covers expectations of privacy in uber / lyft: https://ecollections.law.fiu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1353&context=lawreview https://ecollections.law.fiu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article...