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You forgot: stop producing meat as a daily commodity. While I have personally found not eating meat to be an easy lifestyle change, I'm sure many people will d

by dao- 7y ago

You forgot: stop producing meat as a daily commodity. While I have personally found not eating meat to be an easy lifestyle change, I'm sure many people will disagree.

bamboozled 7y ago
Let’s say %50 of the world populace find it easy and stop eating meat. This is a good reduction, keep up the good work!
_Microft 7y ago
Easier: stop eating meat that you do not actually want. I ate cold cut or sausages for breakfast or dinner not because I actually wanted to but because it was there and I was used to eating it. Easiest way to change is to shop differently. Buy less meat-products to have less of them in the fridge, buy other tasty things instead to have them easily available. By the way - this also means that you can eat all the meat you actually want. Cutting back on the meat you eat on auto-pilot will go a long way already. Edit: inspired by a reply, I think that a rule like Don't eat meat, except if you really want to might be even more promising. It takes away the cognitive load of the decisions whether to eat meat or not while being an unfailable method because it includes exceptions to the rule by itself. You're not out just because you really wanted that burger or a steak at the barbecue.
- red2awn 7y ago
  100% this, not to mention people waste so much food.
- WA 7y ago
  I agree somewhat, but as someone who stopped eating meat two months ago: The reduction of cognitive overhead is definitively a huge plus: "Has it meat in it? Don't buy" – this is a way simpler rule than trying to figure out the question "is this meat on auto-pilot or is it not?" The reduction of choices in restaurants, malls and grocery stores is actually liberating in a way. You should try going meat-free for a month, just for seeing how it makes things a lot easier. The next step would be to go vegan, because the dairy industry is no better than the meat industry, but I haven't done this yet. This actually increases the mental load somewhat again, because you then have to pay a lot more attention on whether something has dairy in it or not (or is made with the help of animal products such as juice).
  - _Microft 7y ago
    Your approach sounds a lot easier in that regard. Let me explain the reasoning behind mine: The important idea was to have the 'failure' case being somewhat acceptable. It's not an either-or situation where you either are a vegetarian or not. It's meant to be a method to deal with weakness. Consuming a fraction of the meat than before is better than being a vegetarian for maybe five weeks before everything falls apart. Combining both approaches might even be the best way: Don't eat meat, except if you really want to sounds simple enough.

by dao- 7y ago

You forgot: stop producing meat as a daily commodity. While I have personally found not eating meat to be an easy lifestyle change, I'm sure many people will disagree.

bamboozled 7y ago

Let’s say %50 of the world populace find it easy and stop eating meat. This is a good reduction, keep up the good work!

_Microft 7y ago

Easier: stop eating meat that you do not actually want. I ate cold cut or sausages for breakfast or dinner not because I actually wanted to but because it was there and I was used to eating it. Easiest way to change is to shop differently. Buy less meat-products to have less of them in the fridge, buy other tasty things instead to have them easily available. By the way - this also means that you can eat all the meat you actually want. Cutting back on the meat you eat on auto-pilot will go a long way already. Edit: inspired by a reply, I think that a rule like Don't eat meat, except if you really want to might be even more promising. It takes away the cognitive load of the decisions whether to eat meat or not while being an unfailable method because it includes exceptions to the rule by itself. You're not out just because you really wanted that burger or a steak at the barbecue.

red2awn 7y ago
100% this, not to mention people waste so much food.
WA 7y ago
I agree somewhat, but as someone who stopped eating meat two months ago: The reduction of cognitive overhead is definitively a huge plus: "Has it meat in it? Don't buy" – this is a way simpler rule than trying to figure out the question "is this meat on auto-pilot or is it not?" The reduction of choices in restaurants, malls and grocery stores is actually liberating in a way. You should try going meat-free for a month, just for seeing how it makes things a lot easier. The next step would be to go vegan, because the dairy industry is no better than the meat industry, but I haven't done this yet. This actually increases the mental load somewhat again, because you then have to pay a lot more attention on whether something has dairy in it or not (or is made with the help of animal products such as juice).
- _Microft 7y ago
  Your approach sounds a lot easier in that regard. Let me explain the reasoning behind mine: The important idea was to have the 'failure' case being somewhat acceptable. It's not an either-or situation where you either are a vegetarian or not. It's meant to be a method to deal with weakness. Consuming a fraction of the meat than before is better than being a vegetarian for maybe five weeks before everything falls apart. Combining both approaches might even be the best way: Don't eat meat, except if you really want to sounds simple enough.