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I'm not convinced removing the headphone jack was purely a design decision, but rather strengthening apple's position in the accessories market, as it is able t
by joeyzm 7y ago
I'm not convinced removing the headphone jack was purely a design decision, but rather strengthening apple's position in the accessories market, as it is able to control the software side of bluetooth headphones, making high margin airpods more attractive. With a headphone jack the playing field was flatter for other headphone manufacturers.
- scarface74 7y agoiPhones work with any BT headphones.
- joeyzm 7y agoThat is true. However, now apple controls the pairing process and is able to introduce features such as share audio that lets you use multiple airpods on the same device, and is probably working on a feature to make airpods work on all your apple products simultaneously.
- scarface74 7y agoSo doesn’t that argue in favor of them dropping support of the headphone jack just for the versatility? But I mentioned in another reply that BT multipoint is a thing. The good standard BT headphones can support multiple devices.
- joeyzm 7y agoNo, my point was that since apple controls the software side, it is able to limit the features of other headphones, especially when it comes to seamless pairing and integration into the apple ecosystem. When the competition was EarPods vs. thousands of different 3.5mm connected headphones, apple had less power to throttle competition when the experience was almost indistinguishable.
- scarface74 7y agoHow is it limiting competition? Any BT headphone maker can create headphones that pair to multiple devices. What awesome features could competitors do with a headphone jack that they couldn’t do by creating headphones with a lightning end?
- joeyzm 7y agoTry to connect your friend's generic bluetooth headphones to share audio from your iphone while connected to your airpods. Now do it with another pair of airpods. Check the list of headphones on this support page: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210421 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210421. All apple-owned.
- scarface74 7y agoThe argument was that Apple was denying the ability for third parties to create a feature by excluding the headphone jack. If Apple had a headphone jack you would get this: https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Headphone-Splitter-Earphone-Compatible/dp/B008P5X91Y https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Headphone-Splitter-Earphone-... Instead of this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PB93C96 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PB93C96
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- diroussel 7y agoBut most BT headphones don’t work seemlessly between laptop and phone. You usually have to unpair from you phone to pair to you laptop. With a headphone jack I can unplug from my phone and plug into my laptop. But once those devices loose headphone jacks I can’t just switch to BT headphones. But I can switch to AirPods. Which seem quite expensive. What other Bluetooth headphones can easily switch from my MacBook to my iPhone?
- baybal2 7y ago> But most BT headphones don’t work seamlessly between laptop and phone. That's a firmware deficiency, not something mandated by bluetooth ICs. I, right now, use bluetooth headphones that connect to my phone and my laptop simultaneously.
- scarface74 7y agoThere are plenty of Bluetooth headphones that support Multipoint https://phiaton.com/blogs/audio/bluetooth-multipoint-pairing-what-is-it-and-how-does-it-work https://phiaton.com/blogs/audio/bluetooth-multipoint-pairing...