Ditto... It goes to show that high quality PMs are just as important as high quality engineers. I've been in orgs where either side is imbalanced, and the same

Ditto... It goes to show that high quality PMs are just as important as high quality engineers. I've been in orgs where either side is imbalanced, and the same predictable results happen. When you have poor engineers, nothing is shipped, everything is buggy, the product never works and is eventually rewritten from scratch with the same predictable cycle. When you have poor PMs, you spend all your time shipping products no one will ever want to use, which demoralizes everyone and kills the productivity of your engineering organization.