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The product manager for this should be reassigned. To not even have the option to opt-out and use the classic input box is ridiculous. Productivity tools need

The product manager for this should be reassigned. To not even have the option to opt-out and use the classic input box is ridiculous. Productivity tools need to be very careful about radical change. Especially when the change won’t make anyone more productive.

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dang 7y ago
Please don't cross into personal attack in HN comments. It breaks the site guidelines ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). Note this one: Be kind. It's hard enough for people to hear criticism or fix mistakes without their head, or a colleague's head, being called for.
- sloum 7y ago
  The OP said they felt the person should be reassigned. This is hardly a call for termination. It was also accompanied by constructive points about productivity software relevant to the post at hand. I do not believe there was anything unkind in suggesting that maybe the person was in over their head.
  - dang 7y ago
    I agree it's much better than saying explicitly they should be fired or (as internet users often do) worse. Still, there's no need to get personal. Organizational failures are almost never one person's doing, and having an indignant thread sitting at #1 talking about how ugly your baby is is punishment already. The rest of the GP comment was fine.
- swader999 7y ago
  It's in their ultimate best interest to find a new vocation. You can't just hit undo or tab out of this one.
  - dang 7y ago
    That's for them to decide, not for HN users to prescribe. Internet commenters underestimate the impact their personal comments have on the targeted person by at least 100x. It's just not nice. It's unlikely that the person in question is reading this HN thread, but there's a chance that they are, and that means we should do better.
    - swader999 7y ago
      Being a lead at a company as high profile as Slack carries a lot of weight career wise. These people can take it and probably thrive off of it.
      - dang 7y ago
        These people? You can justify anything that way. Here's the thing: maybe we don't owe "a lead at a company as high profile at Slack" any better, but we owe ourselves better in order to have a decent community. That's what https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html is about.

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dang 7y ago

Please don't cross into personal attack in HN comments. It breaks the site guidelines ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). Note this one: Be kind. It's hard enough for people to hear criticism or fix mistakes without their head, or a colleague's head, being called for.

sloum 7y ago
The OP said they felt the person should be reassigned. This is hardly a call for termination. It was also accompanied by constructive points about productivity software relevant to the post at hand. I do not believe there was anything unkind in suggesting that maybe the person was in over their head.
- dang 7y ago
  I agree it's much better than saying explicitly they should be fired or (as internet users often do) worse. Still, there's no need to get personal. Organizational failures are almost never one person's doing, and having an indignant thread sitting at #1 talking about how ugly your baby is is punishment already. The rest of the GP comment was fine.
swader999 7y ago
It's in their ultimate best interest to find a new vocation. You can't just hit undo or tab out of this one.
- dang 7y ago
  That's for them to decide, not for HN users to prescribe. Internet commenters underestimate the impact their personal comments have on the targeted person by at least 100x. It's just not nice. It's unlikely that the person in question is reading this HN thread, but there's a chance that they are, and that means we should do better.
  - swader999 7y ago
    Being a lead at a company as high profile as Slack carries a lot of weight career wise. These people can take it and probably thrive off of it.
    - dang 7y ago
      These people? You can justify anything that way. Here's the thing: maybe we don't owe "a lead at a company as high profile at Slack" any better, but we owe ourselves better in order to have a decent community. That's what https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html is about.