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I have seen similar objections to my comments, along with the downvotes. Just as yummyfajitas said, if you evoke cognitive dissonance or frankly mess with peopl

I have seen similar objections to my comments, along with the downvotes. Just as yummyfajitas said, if you evoke cognitive dissonance or frankly mess with peoples' worldview, they will downvote you. It matters not if you are discussing in a matters of science or otherwise. Meditation seems to be a popular thing here on HN, given the amount of "Zen", "Meditation", Buddhism, and other Eastern topics. One of my specialities is specifically Yoga, Tantra, and Tibetan Buddhism. Meditation is a key part of these practices, as is other spiritual and religious work. However, the disjoin I witness here is although meditation is seen as good benefit, anything spiritual and/or religious is downvoted to oblivion. One of the first lessons in proper meditation is shielding, yet the naysayers come out in droves. The Hindus have fond Asana to deal with the itches and movements when trying to meditate. Tumo was developed by the ascetic monks in the Tibetan mountains to generate massive amounts of body heat. Reincarnation, in Tibet, is not seen as some religious belief but as a fact of life. This is to the point that payments can be arranged between lifetimes. I can discuss these techniques at length, as well as do some of them. I'm still learning and do not claim to be any sort of master. However, if these people want to learn about meditation, they better as well know how meditation fails, what happens when you succeed, and pitfalls thereof. Yet when I mention, there are a few who are genuinely curious, and a majority who -1.

Natsu 16y ago
> Reincarnation, in Tibet, is not seen as some religious belief but as a fact of life. This is to the point that payments can be arranged between lifetimes. I just have to know how that works. How are you supposed to find the guy's reincarnation to get paid? Or do they pay your reincarnation?
- TheAmazingIdiot 16y ago
  Not quite. You're thinking of payments as in money or other monetary goods. There are other types of payment and contracts that can be done that are out of the scope of goods. And that is time. If chosen, one can make a binding contract that trades time for something. For example, I could agree to protect a friend for the rest of this life and of the next we meet for something. Gurus make similar agreements about being a teacher as well. Usually a guru agreement is binding until otherwise broken. And life usually puts us back in contact, even in other lives. Now, our relationship can (and usually does) change, but we will almost always meet them. The show and movie Avatar the Last Airbender is very similar how the Dalai Lama is actually chosen. In the Dalai Lama's case, they are shown about a hundred objects, 3 of which belong to the last reincarnation. The TV show shows 4 objects that respond unnaturally (the 4 being representatives of wind/water/fire/earth). It is also in the Dalai Lama's case that he is also to choose people who was in his cabinet prior to his reincarnation, as there is only a few years between the death and life. This step is also proof of who he is. The search usually goes on 2 weeks after his death, in which the world is searched for his new incarnation. And in the case of the Dalai Lama, what makes his so important is that he is seen as the Avatar of Chenrezig (the Patron God of Tibet).
  - Natsu 16y ago
    Because those don't involve money, I would call them "promises" or even "contracts" rather than "payments." But that was interesting. Thank you for the information.

Natsu 16y ago

> Reincarnation, in Tibet, is not seen as some religious belief but as a fact of life. This is to the point that payments can be arranged between lifetimes. I just have to know how that works. How are you supposed to find the guy's reincarnation to get paid? Or do they pay your reincarnation?

TheAmazingIdiot 16y ago
Not quite. You're thinking of payments as in money or other monetary goods. There are other types of payment and contracts that can be done that are out of the scope of goods. And that is time. If chosen, one can make a binding contract that trades time for something. For example, I could agree to protect a friend for the rest of this life and of the next we meet for something. Gurus make similar agreements about being a teacher as well. Usually a guru agreement is binding until otherwise broken. And life usually puts us back in contact, even in other lives. Now, our relationship can (and usually does) change, but we will almost always meet them. The show and movie Avatar the Last Airbender is very similar how the Dalai Lama is actually chosen. In the Dalai Lama's case, they are shown about a hundred objects, 3 of which belong to the last reincarnation. The TV show shows 4 objects that respond unnaturally (the 4 being representatives of wind/water/fire/earth). It is also in the Dalai Lama's case that he is also to choose people who was in his cabinet prior to his reincarnation, as there is only a few years between the death and life. This step is also proof of who he is. The search usually goes on 2 weeks after his death, in which the world is searched for his new incarnation. And in the case of the Dalai Lama, what makes his so important is that he is seen as the Avatar of Chenrezig (the Patron God of Tibet).
- Natsu 16y ago
  Because those don't involve money, I would call them "promises" or even "contracts" rather than "payments." But that was interesting. Thank you for the information.