> And please, can we stop this incessant gatekeeping? It does not help. There are a lot of amazing software engineers working at non-FANG companies doing great

> And please, can we stop this incessant gatekeeping? It does not help. There are a lot of amazing software engineers working at non-FANG companies doing great work, building great things. Sure, but not making north of $200k in non-management, non-super-specialized-and-rare positions. Except ("mostly", I must add, because this is an Internet comment) at places that interview similarly. [EDIT] While we're at it—dear all you folks hiring in the low to mid-100 range for remote positions: your competition, for me, includes local places that don't have a weeks-long five-stage hazing interview process that take 4-8 hours total time, or more. They have maybe two hours of relatively low-stress phone calls and in-person conversations and make a decision in a day or three. And offer the same money you do. They shit or get off the effing pot, because they know if they don't they'll miss me. Your slow-ass high-time-commitment "oh we'll do two hours of pair coding online then fly you out and have you do a half-day of whiteboarding" processes are why it's "hard to find developers", assuming the money you're offering is right. You are not Google. Your money is not Google money. Your competition includes shops that have cashflow and contracts and need—need—developers with half a clue right now and can't afford to dick around, and they pay the same that you do. Knock it off. I'd rather work for you guys but you make it a real pain in the ass.