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My 'favourite' Khrushchev story was he apparently got drunk with the British ambassador and the latter gamely try to argue down the number of H-bombs it would t

My 'favourite' Khrushchev story was he apparently got drunk with the British ambassador and the latter gamely try to argue down the number of H-bombs it would take to destroy the UK whereas Khrushchev was arguing the number up. In case anyone is interested - the actual number the UK government estimated it would take was 3, the Soviets targetted many hundreds of them.

JoeAltmaier 7y ago
One takes out 20% of England's population, if it's London.
- arethuza 7y ago
  I believe the UK estimates were based on the damage required before complete societal breakdown happens rather than simple headcount of immediate casualties. The UK government always was rather realistic about what would happen in the event of a 'general war', even if they didn't make that information widely known.
  - arethuza 7y ago
    Speaking of the effects of a nuclear weapon on London, here is an excellent BBC documentary from the early 1980s on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GJttnC8PoA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GJttnC8PoA In best British tradition it does even manage a bit of exceedingly dark humour.
    - davidwtbuxton 7y ago
      Also Threads, from the same era, incredibly bleak depiction of British society in the aftermath of a nuclear attack. https://youtu.be/vgT4Y30DkaA https://youtu.be/vgT4Y30DkaA (For those who haven't seen it, it is grim, but gripping.)
    - atombender 7y ago
      The director, Mick Jackson, later made Threads [1], which is one of the bleakest, most depressing films ever made. Highly recommended, though not for the easily disturbed. It's filmed like a documentary, not too different from A Guide To Armageddon. He also made Connections [2] with James Burke, which is a fantastic documentary series about the history of science. (His later, very commercial Hollywood work is less interesting, though Steve Martin's L.A. Story is great.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threads https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threads [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connections_(TV_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connections_(TV_series)

JoeAltmaier 7y ago

One takes out 20% of England's population, if it's London.

arethuza 7y ago
I believe the UK estimates were based on the damage required before complete societal breakdown happens rather than simple headcount of immediate casualties. The UK government always was rather realistic about what would happen in the event of a 'general war', even if they didn't make that information widely known.
- arethuza 7y ago
  Speaking of the effects of a nuclear weapon on London, here is an excellent BBC documentary from the early 1980s on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GJttnC8PoA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GJttnC8PoA In best British tradition it does even manage a bit of exceedingly dark humour.
  - davidwtbuxton 7y ago
    Also Threads, from the same era, incredibly bleak depiction of British society in the aftermath of a nuclear attack. https://youtu.be/vgT4Y30DkaA https://youtu.be/vgT4Y30DkaA (For those who haven't seen it, it is grim, but gripping.)
  - atombender 7y ago
    The director, Mick Jackson, later made Threads [1], which is one of the bleakest, most depressing films ever made. Highly recommended, though not for the easily disturbed. It's filmed like a documentary, not too different from A Guide To Armageddon. He also made Connections [2] with James Burke, which is a fantastic documentary series about the history of science. (His later, very commercial Hollywood work is less interesting, though Steve Martin's L.A. Story is great.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threads https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threads [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connections_(TV_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connections_(TV_series)