> getting to solve problems beyond anyone else's reach more this, and less "tools beyond anyone else's reach". A fair number of people go to work with these g

> getting to solve problems beyond anyone else's reach more this, and less "tools beyond anyone else's reach". A fair number of people go to work with these groups to "check the box" that they've done it. They know who's at NSA, or CIA, or DARPA. Because they spent 2-5 years with them inside the box. There's a tremendous amount of self-confidence that comes out of a successful turn at one of these places. You know you know.