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> Small style keyboards I'm optimistic about them (depending on what "small style keyboards" mean to you). I consider ergodox in this category, due to how it d

by tony 7y ago

> Small style keyboards I'm optimistic about them (depending on what "small style keyboards" mean to you). I consider ergodox in this category, due to how it does ctrl/z, function keys and layers. Ergodox-EZ is quite beautiful. The build quality on it is solid. It's heavy, for a keyboard. This is not a logitech or microsoft keyboard where they cynically use cheap materials. But, there are these "small" hacks: It joins Z with the ctrl key. Z has to be hit twice to type Z. Sounds like the end of the world, right? No function keys, a layer key has to be used to get to those. Took me a bit of time to find where F12 was to get to the boot loader :) My anecdote: I am programming and typing efficiently with it (vim, tmux). And I'm hopping onto a laptop keyboard with normal keys and at 100% speed, maybe with the exception of alt-tabbing and accidentally minimizing all windows in Windows 10.

bpizzi 7y ago
> But, there are these "small" hacks: It joins Z with the ctrl key. Z has to be hit twice to type Z. Sounds like the end of the world, right? I'm not sure I'm reading you correctly, but you do know that you can change the layout, right? https://ergodox-ez.com/pages/oryx https://ergodox-ez.com/pages/oryx
throwaway744678 7y ago
How do you Ctrl+Z, then?
- BigJ1211 7y ago
  I use a redox wireless, the layouts in both the ergodox and the redox are completely customisable, CTRL is a separate key from the Z by default on mine for example. https://configure.ergodox-ez.com/ergodox-ez/layouts/default/latest/0 https://configure.ergodox-ez.com/ergodox-ez/layouts/default/... That is the default for the ergodox ez, as you can see there are multiple ways to access the CTRL key.
- tony 7y ago
  Via right ctrl: On the right side, / is ctrl. Hit / twice to type /. Holding / on the right side and hitting z gets the equivalent of Ctrl+Z.
slightwinder 7y ago
> But, there are these "small" hacks: It joins Z with the ctrl key. Z has to be hit twice to type Z. Sounds like the end of the world, right? Then reconfigurate the layout. The greatest thing about such boards is the ability to programm them as you want. this is so great, it slowly starts leacking to other keyboards now.
- tony 7y ago
  I like the way z/ctrl works and got used to it. Same goes for / and ctrl on the right side. I meant it as an example of how ergodox squeezes more power into the keys. I do use the configuration utility, for instance, to make it easier to do screenshots in Gnome. Also included in the configuration, there were firmware updates that fixed an issue where "a" would be repeated intermittently.
CJKinni 7y ago
> But, there are these "small" hacks: It joins Z with the ctrl key. Z has to be hit twice to type Z. Sounds like the end of the world, right? For people new to the Ergodox, and as others have mentioned, this isn't required for use of the EZ. I have two Ergodox-EZs, one at work and the other at home. For those interested, here's my setup: https://configure.ergodox-ez.com/ergodox-ez/layouts/Eej0Z/latest/3 https://configure.ergodox-ez.com/ergodox-ez/layouts/Eej0Z/la... If you're interested in the Ergodox, I do recommend really spending some time with the configurator the first month and keep iterating and practicing with it. It starts out slow, but now I'm as fast, if not faster on it than my old layout. And I'm always able to add new features. Just reading this comment section, I realized I missed my ten-key, so I threw a new layer together on an unused key to get a ten-key setup. One of the major things I've learned using it is to configure with mnemonics in mind. For my ten-key setup, I was tempted to put the 789 where 'yui' are, but I opted to put 789 over 'uio' because then I could remember that the ten-key's top row is down-shifted one from the number row, while still getting the top row of '/*-' in the correct position. I probably won't use a ton of the ten-key this week, but hopefully that mnemonic will help me from fumbling when I do have a use for it.

by tony 7y ago

bpizzi 7y ago

> But, there are these "small" hacks: It joins Z with the ctrl key. Z has to be hit twice to type Z. Sounds like the end of the world, right? I'm not sure I'm reading you correctly, but you do know that you can change the layout, right? https://ergodox-ez.com/pages/oryx https://ergodox-ez.com/pages/oryx

throwaway744678 7y ago

How do you Ctrl+Z, then?

BigJ1211 7y ago
I use a redox wireless, the layouts in both the ergodox and the redox are completely customisable, CTRL is a separate key from the Z by default on mine for example. https://configure.ergodox-ez.com/ergodox-ez/layouts/default/latest/0 https://configure.ergodox-ez.com/ergodox-ez/layouts/default/... That is the default for the ergodox ez, as you can see there are multiple ways to access the CTRL key.
tony 7y ago
Via right ctrl: On the right side, / is ctrl. Hit / twice to type /. Holding / on the right side and hitting z gets the equivalent of Ctrl+Z.

slightwinder 7y ago

> But, there are these "small" hacks: It joins Z with the ctrl key. Z has to be hit twice to type Z. Sounds like the end of the world, right? Then reconfigurate the layout. The greatest thing about such boards is the ability to programm them as you want. this is so great, it slowly starts leacking to other keyboards now.

tony 7y ago
I like the way z/ctrl works and got used to it. Same goes for / and ctrl on the right side. I meant it as an example of how ergodox squeezes more power into the keys. I do use the configuration utility, for instance, to make it easier to do screenshots in Gnome. Also included in the configuration, there were firmware updates that fixed an issue where "a" would be repeated intermittently.

CJKinni 7y ago

> But, there are these "small" hacks: It joins Z with the ctrl key. Z has to be hit twice to type Z. Sounds like the end of the world, right? For people new to the Ergodox, and as others have mentioned, this isn't required for use of the EZ. I have two Ergodox-EZs, one at work and the other at home. For those interested, here's my setup: https://configure.ergodox-ez.com/ergodox-ez/layouts/Eej0Z/latest/3 https://configure.ergodox-ez.com/ergodox-ez/layouts/Eej0Z/la... If you're interested in the Ergodox, I do recommend really spending some time with the configurator the first month and keep iterating and practicing with it. It starts out slow, but now I'm as fast, if not faster on it than my old layout. And I'm always able to add new features. Just reading this comment section, I realized I missed my ten-key, so I threw a new layer together on an unused key to get a ten-key setup. One of the major things I've learned using it is to configure with mnemonics in mind. For my ten-key setup, I was tempted to put the 789 where 'yui' are, but I opted to put 789 over 'uio' because then I could remember that the ten-key's top row is down-shifted one from the number row, while still getting the top row of '/*-' in the correct position. I probably won't use a ton of the ten-key this week, but hopefully that mnemonic will help me from fumbling when I do have a use for it.