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>My transgression in each case was to have not learnt the submission rituals that American police expect Either you are a slow learner, or you make a point to
by pnako 7y ago
>My transgression in each case was to have not learnt the submission rituals that American police expect
Either you are a slow learner, or you make a point to be a smartass with cops.
Do you think it's specific to American cops? Maybe try that with Algerian or Brazilian cops and see how things turn out for you.
- BubRoss 7y agoClassic victim blaming.
- pnako 7y agoVictim of what, exactly?
- bmn__ 7y agoI see your whataboutism. That works both ways. Try holding American cops to the standard one can expect in Central Europe.
- monkeycantype 7y agoYou use the phrase, “smart arse with cops” My take is that not having been raised in the US, I treated them respectfully, but without subservience, and expected mutual respect. In Eastern Europe I’m fine, I accept that i’ve chosen to travel through a broken kleptocracy, and that the cops are gangsters. I’m not willing to accept the same in a democracy, I don’t pretend that any democracy meets the standards we would like them to, but I remain committed to holding ground on the advances we have made and hoping for more with each generation This feels like conversation that could get personal and nasty quick. I don’t want that to happen, I get your point, if a problem is avoidable and you don’t avoid it, you’ve got to question why. And do I really fail to submit out of democratic integrity or am I just stubborn? Honestly I don’t know. Also I want to tell you about my friend, who when instructed to address Detroit police as ‘sir’ replied ‘I struggle to believe her majesty has granted you a knighthood’ He’s stubborn - he’s also ridiculously smart and charismatic, enough to talk his way out of a beatdown most of the time