> It can be hard to appreciate the simplicity of PHP when one's fully bought into the stockholm syndrome of another language/framework :) I used to use PHP and

> It can be hard to appreciate the simplicity of PHP when one's fully bought into the stockholm syndrome of another language/framework :) I used to use PHP and I haven't touched Node.js in quite some time as I've been playing with Rust/(Rocket, Actix Web) and Go's standard lib. So... :) > Consider this: a hello world in PHP requires no knowledge of programming whatsoever: a file saying "hello world" is enough to get the text to show on a browser This does not happen with "no knowledge" unless you suppose that copying and pasting arbitrary lines into a command prompt is "no knowledge" (that Apache server isn't going to install and start itself). And if that's allowed then suddenly there's lots of things you can do that require "no knowledge" as even a few lines of JS spewed into an index.js file via cat can get you easy file content streaming and 404 handling without need for a reverse proxy. > the latest Next.js today is beyond abysmal in comparison I don't know about Next.js; I've never used it nor does it look like something I'd want to use. I also don't understand why we're comparing Next.js to PHP when the equivalent would be some Drupal-as-a-Service or similar.