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I doubt that Ahmadinejad or Bashar elAssad have anything to fear from al-Jazz. In fact, I'm pretty sure that those two would agree with your glowing assessment

I doubt that Ahmadinejad or Bashar elAssad have anything to fear from al-Jazz. In fact, I'm pretty sure that those two would agree with your glowing assessment of their activities. President Obama has expressed his disdain for Fox News on several occasions. Wouldn't that make Fox a network that is hated by the ruling class?

hasenj 16y ago
Fox is a Republican outlet. Al-Jazeera does indeed endorse certain "causes", if that's what you're hinting at. Usually that cause is the freedom of the people. They don't support the governments of Syria or Iran nor run any of their propaganda. They regularly interview opposition figures.
- dfaasdfasdf 16y ago
  Have you seen any criticism of the Iran or Syrian regimes on al-J? Have you seen any criticism of Hamas or Hezbollah? Are these guys really beyond reproach?
  - hasenj 16y ago
    > Have you seen any criticism of the Iran or Syrian regimes on al-J? Have you seen any criticism of Hamas or Hezbollah? All the time. > Are these guys really beyond reproach? What? Have you seen anything of Al Jazeera? probably not. Now, does any western media channel regularly host speakers from Hamas? I doubt it. Al-Jazeera always interviews people from the Israeli side (and they get a lot of heat for it).
    - dfaasdfasdf 16y ago
      > Have you seen anything of Al Jazeera? probably not. Please do not make any assumptions about me, I have seen plenty. For example, when al-J threw a birthday party to Samir Kuntar and called him a hero. Samir Kuntar is a guy who was doing time in Israel for killing a 4-year old girl by bashing her head with a rock. > Al-Jazeera always interviews people from the Israeli side (and they get a lot of heat for it). You're comparing guys like Samir Kuntar to Israeli government ministers?
      - hasenj 16y ago
        See, the thing is, you're obviously biased towards Israel and you're endorsing the Israeli side of the story. Now, I don't know anything about this guy, but clearly the Lebanese side of the story is that he's a resistance figure. > You're comparing guys like Samir Kuntar to Israeli government ministers? No, you are. You're also implying the Israeli government ministers are "the good guys", which they are not. To put it more objectively, Al-Jazeera is an Arabic channel, supposed to be supporting Arab causes, like Palestine. Israel is the enemy here. So, network X is supposed to be endorsing a cause where A is the hero and the victim, while B is the evil aggressor. Yet, X interviews people from the B side all the time and gives them a chance to voice their views. I've yet to see any American media outlets do the same. I remember a long time ago, a Hamas spokesman appeared on CNN for a few minutes, and the title was reading "Spokesman of Terror?".
        nitrogen 16y ago
        Maybe I should cloak manipulative fabrications as questions more often. I thought about providing some ridiculous startup-related examples, but couldn't bring myself to do it.
        Locke1689 16y ago
        See, the thing is, you're obviously biased towards Israel and you're endorsing the Israeli side of the story. Now, I don't know anything about this guy, but clearly the Lebanese side of the story is that he's a resistance figure. You're both a little wrong and right here. The grandparent is right that journalists shouldn't be outright supporting viewpoints. He's also correct that it's generally agreed that Samir Kuntar was responsible for several deaths in his orchestrated kidnapping of an Israeli family (Wikipedia, I had never heard of this incident before this conversation). However, the Al Jazeera network head then admitted that the behavior of the Beirut office was wholly inappropriate and should never happen again.
      - enry_straker 16y ago
        True. How can you compare a nation and it's minions who are conducting a terrible subjugation of an entire group of people who made the mistake of being born there. Silly.
tybris 16y ago
You made an account for that? Wrong site buddy.
yequalsx 16y ago
Why do you doubt that Bashar has anything to fear from Al Jazeera? Mubarak apparently does and I can't think of why Bashar would be given better treatment than Mubarak. Do you know why this would be the case? Perhaps because of Syria's pro Hezb Allah stance and Hezb Allah's affiliation with Iran. But Al Jazeera is an Arab, Sunni company based in the Persian Gulf. In that region there is a very strong anti-Iranian stance. On the surface it would seem that Bashar would have more to fear from Al Jazeera than Mubarak.
jdp23 16y ago
I was surprised to see this downvoted. I don't agree with the first paragraph, but I didn't think it subtracted from the conversation. And I thought the second paragraph was a valid point. What were people reacting to?
- nitrogen 16y ago
  What were people reacting to? Probably the short length for a first post, lack of substantiation (just stating an opinion), conclusion from a sample size of one (Obama == ruling class), and the other posts made by the same throwaway account.
  - jdp23 16y ago
    Makes sense, thanks!

hasenj 16y ago

Fox is a Republican outlet. Al-Jazeera does indeed endorse certain "causes", if that's what you're hinting at. Usually that cause is the freedom of the people. They don't support the governments of Syria or Iran nor run any of their propaganda. They regularly interview opposition figures.

dfaasdfasdf 16y ago
Have you seen any criticism of the Iran or Syrian regimes on al-J? Have you seen any criticism of Hamas or Hezbollah? Are these guys really beyond reproach?
- hasenj 16y ago
  > Have you seen any criticism of the Iran or Syrian regimes on al-J? Have you seen any criticism of Hamas or Hezbollah? All the time. > Are these guys really beyond reproach? What? Have you seen anything of Al Jazeera? probably not. Now, does any western media channel regularly host speakers from Hamas? I doubt it. Al-Jazeera always interviews people from the Israeli side (and they get a lot of heat for it).
  - dfaasdfasdf 16y ago
    > Have you seen anything of Al Jazeera? probably not. Please do not make any assumptions about me, I have seen plenty. For example, when al-J threw a birthday party to Samir Kuntar and called him a hero. Samir Kuntar is a guy who was doing time in Israel for killing a 4-year old girl by bashing her head with a rock. > Al-Jazeera always interviews people from the Israeli side (and they get a lot of heat for it). You're comparing guys like Samir Kuntar to Israeli government ministers?
    - hasenj 16y ago
      See, the thing is, you're obviously biased towards Israel and you're endorsing the Israeli side of the story. Now, I don't know anything about this guy, but clearly the Lebanese side of the story is that he's a resistance figure. > You're comparing guys like Samir Kuntar to Israeli government ministers? No, you are. You're also implying the Israeli government ministers are "the good guys", which they are not. To put it more objectively, Al-Jazeera is an Arabic channel, supposed to be supporting Arab causes, like Palestine. Israel is the enemy here. So, network X is supposed to be endorsing a cause where A is the hero and the victim, while B is the evil aggressor. Yet, X interviews people from the B side all the time and gives them a chance to voice their views. I've yet to see any American media outlets do the same. I remember a long time ago, a Hamas spokesman appeared on CNN for a few minutes, and the title was reading "Spokesman of Terror?".
      - nitrogen 16y ago
        Maybe I should cloak manipulative fabrications as questions more often. I thought about providing some ridiculous startup-related examples, but couldn't bring myself to do it.
      - Locke1689 16y ago
        See, the thing is, you're obviously biased towards Israel and you're endorsing the Israeli side of the story. Now, I don't know anything about this guy, but clearly the Lebanese side of the story is that he's a resistance figure. You're both a little wrong and right here. The grandparent is right that journalists shouldn't be outright supporting viewpoints. He's also correct that it's generally agreed that Samir Kuntar was responsible for several deaths in his orchestrated kidnapping of an Israeli family (Wikipedia, I had never heard of this incident before this conversation). However, the Al Jazeera network head then admitted that the behavior of the Beirut office was wholly inappropriate and should never happen again.
    - enry_straker 16y ago
      True. How can you compare a nation and it's minions who are conducting a terrible subjugation of an entire group of people who made the mistake of being born there. Silly.

tybris 16y ago

You made an account for that? Wrong site buddy.

yequalsx 16y ago

Why do you doubt that Bashar has anything to fear from Al Jazeera? Mubarak apparently does and I can't think of why Bashar would be given better treatment than Mubarak. Do you know why this would be the case? Perhaps because of Syria's pro Hezb Allah stance and Hezb Allah's affiliation with Iran. But Al Jazeera is an Arab, Sunni company based in the Persian Gulf. In that region there is a very strong anti-Iranian stance. On the surface it would seem that Bashar would have more to fear from Al Jazeera than Mubarak.

jdp23 16y ago

I was surprised to see this downvoted. I don't agree with the first paragraph, but I didn't think it subtracted from the conversation. And I thought the second paragraph was a valid point. What were people reacting to?

nitrogen 16y ago
What were people reacting to? Probably the short length for a first post, lack of substantiation (just stating an opinion), conclusion from a sample size of one (Obama == ruling class), and the other posts made by the same throwaway account.
- jdp23 16y ago
  Makes sense, thanks!