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I'm sorry you hurt your hearing. I know quite a few with tinnitus, and some of them are borderline suicidal with how horrible it is for them. I doubt legislati

I'm sorry you hurt your hearing. I know quite a few with tinnitus, and some of them are borderline suicidal with how horrible it is for them. I doubt legislation with help. As a drummer from my early teens till mid 30s (some of that time in a partially successful band), and attender of thousands of shows, I KNEW concerts were too loud, and ALWAYS took earplugs (except once to a Weird Al show). I think I still suffer from hearing loss, especially with the amount of times I say, "huh" to my kids and wife. So, from a position of possible mild hearing loss, I think personal responsibility is the only thing here. From wearing protection at shows, while using power tools, and I sometimes do it on the subway commuting. No one will look out for your hearing, but you. Again, I'm sorry about your ears. I can't imagine how terrible it is, but having seen all the ways venues work, I doubt legislation will do shit.

pedrocr 7y ago
At least where I am legislation already exists. What I'm puzzled by is why it doesn't seem to be policed at all, and why nobody seems to care. When rivers, soil or the air are being visibly produced we at least get some public reactions. For some reason for sound we don't perceive it the same way.
- zzzeek 7y ago
  a real law would be based on measurement, not perception.
  - pedrocr 7y ago
    The law is based on measurement of course. It's our lack of reaction to the non-following of the law that's the perception issue.
ouid 7y ago
Why don't you think legislation will help?
cryptonector 7y ago
If you need ear protection, and so does everyone else, then maybe the volume is too high, no? Also, why not hand out ear protection? Whenever you go into a datacenter there should be a dispenser of ear plugs, so why not too at concerts? What does a teenager or young adult know about this anyways? Nothing, really, and they aren't even conscious of the damage being done until it is too late. Personal responsibility for tinnitus? Please. No. Responsibility for tinnitus is diffuse. There's a lack of awareness, lack of education, lack of regulation, lack of enforcement. I don't doubt that legislation could help: just make it a requirement that concert venues hand out ear plugs. It's harder to deal with bars, naturally, but even there, there could be a requirement for a maximum decibels for music at 15ft from speakers, and requirement that there be a sound power sensor. Gun ranges, for example, have to provide you with ear protection, and they do -- what works for gun ranges can work for other public accommodations.
MiroF 7y ago
> I KNEW concerts were too loud, and ALWAYS took earplugs (except once to a Weird Al show). I think I still suffer from hearing loss, especially with the amount of times I say, "huh" to my kids and wife. Why are they like this? Do people actually enjoy it? I find it awful, but it's consistent at every small concert I go to.

pedrocr 7y ago

At least where I am legislation already exists. What I'm puzzled by is why it doesn't seem to be policed at all, and why nobody seems to care. When rivers, soil or the air are being visibly produced we at least get some public reactions. For some reason for sound we don't perceive it the same way.

zzzeek 7y ago
a real law would be based on measurement, not perception.
- pedrocr 7y ago
  The law is based on measurement of course. It's our lack of reaction to the non-following of the law that's the perception issue.

ouid 7y ago

Why don't you think legislation will help?

cryptonector 7y ago

If you need ear protection, and so does everyone else, then maybe the volume is too high, no? Also, why not hand out ear protection? Whenever you go into a datacenter there should be a dispenser of ear plugs, so why not too at concerts? What does a teenager or young adult know about this anyways? Nothing, really, and they aren't even conscious of the damage being done until it is too late. Personal responsibility for tinnitus? Please. No. Responsibility for tinnitus is diffuse. There's a lack of awareness, lack of education, lack of regulation, lack of enforcement. I don't doubt that legislation could help: just make it a requirement that concert venues hand out ear plugs. It's harder to deal with bars, naturally, but even there, there could be a requirement for a maximum decibels for music at 15ft from speakers, and requirement that there be a sound power sensor. Gun ranges, for example, have to provide you with ear protection, and they do -- what works for gun ranges can work for other public accommodations.

MiroF 7y ago

> I KNEW concerts were too loud, and ALWAYS took earplugs (except once to a Weird Al show). I think I still suffer from hearing loss, especially with the amount of times I say, "huh" to my kids and wife. Why are they like this? Do people actually enjoy it? I find it awful, but it's consistent at every small concert I go to.