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You should emphasize that this is Organic AI. It's low carbon and overall greener.

by buboard 7y ago

mumblemumble 7y ago
Or keep calling it AI, and concede that AI stands for "actual intelligence" if someone asks you directly.
- dghughes 7y ago
  AI now is like Cyber was in the 1990s it's seems to be nothing but a buzzword for many organizations to throw around. The term AI is used as if humanity now has figured out general AI or artificial general intelligence (AGI). It's quite obvious organizations and people use the term AI to fool the less tech inclined into thinking it's AGI - a real thinking machine.
  - mumblemumble 7y ago
    Remember 5-ish years ago when IBM's marketing department was hawking their machine learning and information retrieval products as AI, and everyone in the world rolled their eyes so hard we had to add another leap second to the calendar to account for the the resulting change in the earth's rotation? I suppose their only real sin was business suits. Everything seems more credible if you say it while wearing a hoodie.
  - the8472 7y ago
    Cyber is still happens to be a buzzword, it just shifted meaning to the defense sector.
  - trileansoftware 7y ago
    Has been like that for quite a while, it has up and lows with the 90s marking a winter season for AI, and now the hype machine is on full steam again, until people find out again a lot of it is marketing BS to get funding. Then the research that is worthwhile gets mixed up with that, go into a lack of funding and in 30 years or so it's back on full hype again.
- roywiggins 7y ago
  Call it Al, and only hire Alans, Alberts, Alphonses, Alis, etc
robotresearcher 7y ago
Each unit uses about 100W continuously and emits about 1kg of CO2 per day before adding impact of supporting infrastructure. These things better be smart, because they are not low-footprint.
- buboard 7y ago
  We just have to hope our robot overlords will not be overly environmentally conscious
scottlegrand2 7y ago
20+ years ago I used to refer to this is as artificial artificial intelligence (AAI) specifically as part of a pitch to MGM for an MMORPG to run their non-player characters. Not surprisingly, it didn't catch on...
- avip 7y ago
  That was MTurk's slogan on launch.
  - scottlegrand2 7y ago
    Totally should have trademarked it along with "IGlasses" in the very same pitch. The patch was apparently rejected because our level design ideas were better than the actual episodes of the show upon which it was based: "Poltergeist: The Legacy."
maxlamb 7y ago
I think simply OI (Organic Intelligence) would the more appropriate term since it's no longer artificial ;)
- SAI_Peregrinus 7y ago
  Eh, every existing instance was created by some people working together.
eloff 7y ago
You mean high carbon, low silicon? Because humans usually have a higher carbon footprint than computers, it takes a lot of computers to match one human. Plus we're made of carbon.
- buboard 7y ago
  i m not sure, if you factor in the CO2 footprint of computer manufacture, and the fact that AI needs powerful computers & networking to be delivered. Our body carbon is almost 100% recycleable.
  - eloff 7y ago
    If only the carbon footprint of a human was the body carbon. Modern humans have a very heavy carbon footprint, especially in the US. Think of all the things you do and consume and all the carbon involved all thorough the chain. It's a big number. Computers are extremely efficient compared to that.
    - TeMPOraL 7y ago
      People you hire on MTurk don't generally work in the US, and have a small fraction of the carbon footprint of an average American.
      - hobofan 7y ago
        Aren't most of those arguments here moot, since they also need a computer (+ networking) to be available on MTurk? computer < human + computer Of course not every computer has the same specs and footprint, but they should be in roughly the same ballpark.
        TeMPOraL 7y ago
        A typical computer used by a typical person has only a fraction of energy use of GPU farms utilized to train DNN models. We're not at the point where you can pick an existing DNN off the shelf and just use it, you have train (at least partially) a new one for each new task, often many times.
ping_pong 7y ago
I like calling them MeatBots

You should emphasize that this is Organic AI. It's low carbon and overall greener.

mumblemumble 7y ago

Or keep calling it AI, and concede that AI stands for "actual intelligence" if someone asks you directly.

dghughes 7y ago
AI now is like Cyber was in the 1990s it's seems to be nothing but a buzzword for many organizations to throw around. The term AI is used as if humanity now has figured out general AI or artificial general intelligence (AGI). It's quite obvious organizations and people use the term AI to fool the less tech inclined into thinking it's AGI - a real thinking machine.
- mumblemumble 7y ago
  Remember 5-ish years ago when IBM's marketing department was hawking their machine learning and information retrieval products as AI, and everyone in the world rolled their eyes so hard we had to add another leap second to the calendar to account for the the resulting change in the earth's rotation? I suppose their only real sin was business suits. Everything seems more credible if you say it while wearing a hoodie.
- the8472 7y ago
  Cyber is still happens to be a buzzword, it just shifted meaning to the defense sector.
- trileansoftware 7y ago
  Has been like that for quite a while, it has up and lows with the 90s marking a winter season for AI, and now the hype machine is on full steam again, until people find out again a lot of it is marketing BS to get funding. Then the research that is worthwhile gets mixed up with that, go into a lack of funding and in 30 years or so it's back on full hype again.
roywiggins 7y ago
Call it Al, and only hire Alans, Alberts, Alphonses, Alis, etc

robotresearcher 7y ago

Each unit uses about 100W continuously and emits about 1kg of CO2 per day before adding impact of supporting infrastructure. These things better be smart, because they are not low-footprint.

buboard 7y ago
We just have to hope our robot overlords will not be overly environmentally conscious

scottlegrand2 7y ago

20+ years ago I used to refer to this is as artificial artificial intelligence (AAI) specifically as part of a pitch to MGM for an MMORPG to run their non-player characters. Not surprisingly, it didn't catch on...

avip 7y ago
That was MTurk's slogan on launch.
- scottlegrand2 7y ago
  Totally should have trademarked it along with "IGlasses" in the very same pitch. The patch was apparently rejected because our level design ideas were better than the actual episodes of the show upon which it was based: "Poltergeist: The Legacy."

maxlamb 7y ago

I think simply OI (Organic Intelligence) would the more appropriate term since it's no longer artificial ;)

SAI_Peregrinus 7y ago
Eh, every existing instance was created by some people working together.

eloff 7y ago

You mean high carbon, low silicon? Because humans usually have a higher carbon footprint than computers, it takes a lot of computers to match one human. Plus we're made of carbon.

buboard 7y ago
i m not sure, if you factor in the CO2 footprint of computer manufacture, and the fact that AI needs powerful computers & networking to be delivered. Our body carbon is almost 100% recycleable.
- eloff 7y ago
  If only the carbon footprint of a human was the body carbon. Modern humans have a very heavy carbon footprint, especially in the US. Think of all the things you do and consume and all the carbon involved all thorough the chain. It's a big number. Computers are extremely efficient compared to that.
  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    People you hire on MTurk don't generally work in the US, and have a small fraction of the carbon footprint of an average American.
    - hobofan 7y ago
      Aren't most of those arguments here moot, since they also need a computer (+ networking) to be available on MTurk? computer < human + computer Of course not every computer has the same specs and footprint, but they should be in roughly the same ballpark.
      - TeMPOraL 7y ago
        A typical computer used by a typical person has only a fraction of energy use of GPU farms utilized to train DNN models. We're not at the point where you can pick an existing DNN off the shelf and just use it, you have train (at least partially) a new one for each new task, often many times.

ping_pong 7y ago

I like calling them MeatBots