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Yet depression and isolation are at an all time high. Who's to say strengthening family and community bonds would result in a failed society? It would certainly

Yet depression and isolation are at an all time high. Who's to say strengthening family and community bonds would result in a failed society? It would certainly have negatives and positives. It's only purely negative when viewed through the lens of individual economic achievement (which may not be possible to the level seen post-WW II in the west).

Nursie 7y ago
> Who's to say strengthening family and community bonds would result in a failed society? Nobody, but getting there by forcing everyone together because it's no longer possible to afford to do otherwise seems to be a good indicator that something has broken. > It's only purely negative when viewed through the lens of individual economic achievement I'm 41, I moved out of my folks place when I was 18. My life would have been quieter and poorer if I had had to stay in their house for the last 23 years, following their rules, and it would have driven me insane. I lived in shared houses for several years, then moved to my own place, now live with my partner. It's not just about economic success, it's about having your own space to be yourself and live life the way you want it. > (which may not be possible to the level seen post-WW II in the west). Oh rubbish. Endless growth may not be possible or even desirable, but being able to make your own way in the world is not over, nor is it likely to be any time soon. --edit-- I do understand that, for instance, owning property is much harder in many places now than ever before, I think we have work to do as a society to mitigate that. But I also think that perhaps we've over-centralised on a few desirable, expensive cities (in the UK, where I live, but also other western nations). A re-balance by distributing the wealth-generation around a bit more would help.

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Yet depression and isolation are at an all time high. Who's to say strengthening family and community bonds would result in a failed society? It would certainly

by malvosenior 7y ago

Nursie 7y ago
> Who's to say strengthening family and community bonds would result in a failed society? Nobody, but getting there by forcing everyone together because it's no longer possible to afford to do otherwise seems to be a good indicator that something has broken. > It's only purely negative when viewed through the lens of individual economic achievement I'm 41, I moved out of my folks place when I was 18. My life would have been quieter and poorer if I had had to stay in their house for the last 23 years, following their rules, and it would have driven me insane. I lived in shared houses for several years, then moved to my own place, now live with my partner. It's not just about economic success, it's about having your own space to be yourself and live life the way you want it. > (which may not be possible to the level seen post-WW II in the west). Oh rubbish. Endless growth may not be possible or even desirable, but being able to make your own way in the world is not over, nor is it likely to be any time soon. --edit-- I do understand that, for instance, owning property is much harder in many places now than ever before, I think we have work to do as a society to mitigate that. But I also think that perhaps we've over-centralised on a few desirable, expensive cities (in the UK, where I live, but also other western nations). A re-balance by distributing the wealth-generation around a bit more would help.