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Alternatively pay for a GSuite account for like £3 a month (Or Office 365) and all of this is handled for you with superior spam filtering, search, webmail, no
by benbristow 7y ago
Alternatively pay for a GSuite account for like £3 a month (Or Office 365) and all of this is handled for you with superior spam filtering, search, webmail, no manual administration and no issues with email delivery due to other filters thinking your server is a bit dodgy.
It's too much effort to run your own email server well.
- Naac 7y agoBut the very first comment of the article explains exactly why one might want to do this as an alternative to gmail: >> Getting off GMail is one of the best ways to take back your data in the face of dragnet surveillance.
- q3k 7y agoOf even better, use some smaller alternative that is not Google (mailbox.org, protonmail, fastmail, ...). GMail's de-facto monopoly on email (and especially spam filtering) is a threat to the Internet.
- frabert 7y agoIf you don't need IMAP/POP3 access and can live with just the webmail and native apps, Tutanota is great and costs almost nothing
- derrick_jensen 7y agoI'd recommend Rackspace. $3 per user per month, and allowed me to bring my own domain. Haven't had any issues after setting everything up. I tried registering this domain through G Suite and Zoho first, but they both said my domain had a TLD that's commonly used by spammers, and refused to bind it. Zoho eventually made an exception but took over a week for them to get back to me.
- q3k 7y agoHuh, that's the first time I hear of rejection due to a TLD. What is it?
- Boulth 7y agoI guess that would be .tk
- q3k 7y agoOh. Right.
- derrick_jensen 7y agoIt was a .ml domain, wanted to have a play on .ai
- gumby 7y agoSome of us don't use google. Plus you have to use a web browser. I use a variety of clients as Dovecot is standards-compliant unlike gmail. Also I run things over my mail database as I have direct access to it. I'm sure there are some people for whom google is an acceptable option. But it isn't for everyone.
- benbristow 7y agoLife must be hard to not use Google. Too many good services. Search, Mail, Photos, Translate, YouTube, Maps, Drive, Calendar, Docs, News etc. etc. What do you replace them with? In experience Google is usually the best or not far from the best.
- gumby 7y agoIt’s not hard at all, and in fact is Typically easier. Google has degraded search to the point where it rarely gives me a useful result; instead the primary results are ads and “boxes”, so switching to ddg was a pleasure. tools like mail and photo aren’t as fast or convenient as local apps; with local data I can switch from app to app. Yes Apple Maps isn’t as good as google maps, but in some ways is better. I watch the odd YouTube video in private mode but if I watch three videos a month it’s a lot so if it went away I doubt I’d notice. and docs...blech, where to start. I still get new documents from companies I left long ago. The editing tools are primitive. I know people talk about Apple having a “walled garden” but really for me it’s google that has one, now with a shitty web based interface.
- adam12 7y agoI think you might be missing the point.
- blowski 7y agoThe obvious rebuttal here is that not everyone is comfortable having a Google or Microsoft account, or having Google and Microsoft scanning their emails. In that case, Fastmail is a good alternative. It’s not quite as good as Gmail on security and anti-spam, but it’s much better on privacy.
- couchand 7y agoCan you clarify what you mean by "security"? I've found Fastmail's spam filtering to be quite excellent: very few false positives (usually just non-spam marketing messages) and almost no false negatives.
- blowski 7y agoSecurity - I think Fastmail is pretty good at security, but I don't think there's another firm on the planet that does as well at security as Google. Specifically, I found Fastmail's implementation of 2FA to be a bit lacking. I imagine that a determined attacker would find it easier to abuse their support processes, since Fastmail's support is quite helpful whereas Google barely even responds. Spam filtering - I have both Gmail and Fastmail. I'd score Gmail 10/10 on spam preventing, and Fastmail at 8/10.
- brongondwana 7y agoBy the way - I told our support team that you told them they were quite helpful. They are pleased to hear that feedback :) Seriously though, we have been making as much effort as possible to push the account recovery away from being an "agent decides" to following an automated process. We famously got this wrong once many years ago, and have learned from that! So the fact that our lovely support people are very helpful once they have identified a person does not mean they are pushovers for an attacker.
- blowski 7y agoThey genuinely are very helpful. I always get the feeling I'm speaking to a human being that knows enough technology to answer my questions, and has the empathy to try to understand my problem. I remember on one occasion needing to extract billing info from a number of different accounts that were under one master account. The support explained there was no native solution, but helped me come up with a workaround. That kind of support is sadly missing from a lot of vendors.
- curiousgal 7y agoGsuite is at $6 per month.
- benbristow 7y agoI pay about £3.50 or so.
- daffy 7y agoposteo.de is 1 euro/month
- benbristow 7y agoLooks good but doesn't seem to offer custom domain support