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This is one thing Trump is doing that should get broad support. It probably won’t though, because some people are physically incapable of agreeing with him.

by egdod 7y ago

vernie 7y ago
Right. I'm over here like WTF I love hospitals and insurance companies now?
sakopov 7y ago
I honestly didn't even know this was in the works. It's amazing how much effort is put towards blocking out any positive news about this administration.
- legitster 7y ago
  It was actually one of his campaign promises: https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1393/require-price-transparency-health-care-providers/ https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpomete...
- Brain_Thief 7y ago
  The simple explanation for the lack of positive news regarding this administration is that it's very hard to pay attention to the small list of broadly-beneficial policy proposals it has generated relative to the endless deluge of corruption and incompetence it is responsible for.
legitster 7y ago
Absolutely! We should also give credit to the Obama administration for proposing the legislation in the first place and including it in the language of the ACA.
theandrewbailey 7y ago
If people can understand that a bad person can do good things (and maybe help), there's still hope left for humanity.
tzs 7y ago
One issue is that while posting standard prices is good, most analysis I've seen says that it won't actually have much effect for most people. If it is done as part of a broad effort to address health care costs and availability, then it's fine. But so far there is no sign of any such broad plan, which leads many to worry that this will be all that the current Administration is going to do to try to lower health costs.
- burfog 7y ago
  It is done as part of a broad effort to address health care costs and availability. You haven't seen any sign of this because anything favorable to Trump gets very little news coverage. For example, I managed to find one online mention in mainstream news (not sure if it was ever broadcast) that mentions Trump's effort for drug price transparency: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pharma-companies-must-reveal-drug-prices-in-tv-ads-under-new-trump-administration-rule/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pharma-companies-must-reveal-dr... There is a bunch more that doesn't seem to be in the news at all: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trumps-blueprint-lower-drug-prices/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-do...
Keverw 7y ago
Yeah, Obama Care had some good things like preexisting conditions but nasty things such as fining people who cannot afford health care. However there's about 5 states that are implementing their own fine for residents. I know though people who are part of health sharing ministries, or if you are amish, a scientologists, a Christian Scientists or a Muslim were exempted from ACA so not sure if states will carry that along or not. Really feel like no system is perfect though. Then the whole idea of enrollment times being limited, being in network and out of network, even a hospital in network can have doctors and providers out of network. So if you get surgery in network, your anesthesiologist might be out of network and get a surprise bill. Then some doctors will even tell people to not worry and everything will be covered but it's not. I know someone who needed something done but was so worried about getting costs, the doctor got a pre-approval from the insurance company and they still didn't want to pay it. So either the insurance company or doctor lied. I know some RVers recommend health sharing ministries though, but I know it's not technically considered insurance. There's a few of them that were approved, so Obama Care would see it as insurance even though it wasn't. Also I don't believe you have to worry about the whole in-network or not as you are self paying and then get reimbursed for your bills. Plus traditional insurance doesn't cover you across state lines, so useless for travelers too. Plus I think they might be cheaper too. Something to research more though as sounds like an alternative. I know one isn't too religious, just got to believe in god, don't smoke or drink alcohol unless socially. Kinda interesting you can be legally forced to buy health insurance but you can't even use it. Same thing with car insurance, forced to get it but it isn't forced to pay anything. Even if you wasn't at fault, they try to wiggle their way out of paying or drop you. Pretty much a legalized mandated ponzi scheme. Then they all run flashy TV commercials saying they are the cheapest to switch to, well they all can't be the cheapest so someone is lying or they give you a deal then a year later it just increases.
Ididntdothis 7y ago
Unfortunately I believe he will cave in quickly and lose interest while claiming a big win . So far none of his health efforts have led to anything other than big words about Obamacare and then nothing. I would be very happy to be wrong about this.

This is one thing Trump is doing that should get broad support. It probably won’t though, because some people are physically incapable of agreeing with him.

by egdod 7y ago

This is one thing Trump is doing that should get broad support. It probably won’t though, because some people are physically incapable of agreeing with him.

vernie 7y ago

Right. I'm over here like WTF I love hospitals and insurance companies now?

sakopov 7y ago

I honestly didn't even know this was in the works. It's amazing how much effort is put towards blocking out any positive news about this administration.

legitster 7y ago
It was actually one of his campaign promises: https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1393/require-price-transparency-health-care-providers/ https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpomete...
Brain_Thief 7y ago
The simple explanation for the lack of positive news regarding this administration is that it's very hard to pay attention to the small list of broadly-beneficial policy proposals it has generated relative to the endless deluge of corruption and incompetence it is responsible for.

legitster 7y ago

Absolutely! We should also give credit to the Obama administration for proposing the legislation in the first place and including it in the language of the ACA.

theandrewbailey 7y ago

If people can understand that a bad person can do good things (and maybe help), there's still hope left for humanity.

tzs 7y ago

One issue is that while posting standard prices is good, most analysis I've seen says that it won't actually have much effect for most people. If it is done as part of a broad effort to address health care costs and availability, then it's fine. But so far there is no sign of any such broad plan, which leads many to worry that this will be all that the current Administration is going to do to try to lower health costs.

burfog 7y ago
It is done as part of a broad effort to address health care costs and availability. You haven't seen any sign of this because anything favorable to Trump gets very little news coverage. For example, I managed to find one online mention in mainstream news (not sure if it was ever broadcast) that mentions Trump's effort for drug price transparency: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pharma-companies-must-reveal-drug-prices-in-tv-ads-under-new-trump-administration-rule/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pharma-companies-must-reveal-dr... There is a bunch more that doesn't seem to be in the news at all: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trumps-blueprint-lower-drug-prices/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-do...

Keverw 7y ago

Yeah, Obama Care had some good things like preexisting conditions but nasty things such as fining people who cannot afford health care. However there's about 5 states that are implementing their own fine for residents. I know though people who are part of health sharing ministries, or if you are amish, a scientologists, a Christian Scientists or a Muslim were exempted from ACA so not sure if states will carry that along or not. Really feel like no system is perfect though. Then the whole idea of enrollment times being limited, being in network and out of network, even a hospital in network can have doctors and providers out of network. So if you get surgery in network, your anesthesiologist might be out of network and get a surprise bill. Then some doctors will even tell people to not worry and everything will be covered but it's not. I know someone who needed something done but was so worried about getting costs, the doctor got a pre-approval from the insurance company and they still didn't want to pay it. So either the insurance company or doctor lied. I know some RVers recommend health sharing ministries though, but I know it's not technically considered insurance. There's a few of them that were approved, so Obama Care would see it as insurance even though it wasn't. Also I don't believe you have to worry about the whole in-network or not as you are self paying and then get reimbursed for your bills. Plus traditional insurance doesn't cover you across state lines, so useless for travelers too. Plus I think they might be cheaper too. Something to research more though as sounds like an alternative. I know one isn't too religious, just got to believe in god, don't smoke or drink alcohol unless socially. Kinda interesting you can be legally forced to buy health insurance but you can't even use it. Same thing with car insurance, forced to get it but it isn't forced to pay anything. Even if you wasn't at fault, they try to wiggle their way out of paying or drop you. Pretty much a legalized mandated ponzi scheme. Then they all run flashy TV commercials saying they are the cheapest to switch to, well they all can't be the cheapest so someone is lying or they give you a deal then a year later it just increases.

Ididntdothis 7y ago

Unfortunately I believe he will cave in quickly and lose interest while claiming a big win . So far none of his health efforts have led to anything other than big words about Obamacare and then nothing. I would be very happy to be wrong about this.