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Another interesting spy ship saga is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
by tych0 7y ago
Another interesting spy ship saga is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
- OldFatCactus 7y agoI've seen this come up a lot recently. Antisemitic, alt-right grifters have been using this incident as some sort of dogwhistle
- core-questions 7y agoI've seen the word "grifter" come up a lot recently. Anti-white people have been using the fact that people point out uncomfortable moments in history as some sort of dogwhistle
- OldFatCactus 7y agoLooks like the whistle is working lol
- pc86 7y agoDogwhistle for what? I'm genuinely curious, I don't know what that could be used as a dogwhistle for.
- OldFatCactus 7y agoIf I'm being charitable, anti-Israel sentiment. The conspiracy theory is that Israel did it deliberately
- slg 7y agoThe Liberty is a common antisemitic talking point. It is an incident in which the Israeli military attacked and killed American troops. Both the deliberateness and the potential motive of the attack are unknown and unexplained. It doesn't take much for the conspiracy theorists to turn that into "Jews want to kill Americans".
- nyolfen 7y agothe idea is that it was a false flag attack to lure the US into intervening in the 6 day war on behalf of israel; its appeal to antisemites, sympathists of liberty sailors, american opponents of israel, or even just trolls should be pretty obvious
- catalogia 7y agoThe possibility of a false flag to start a war doesn't seem so outlandish when you consider the context of the era. Only a few years earlier you had the U.S. Department of Defense proposing plans to carry out terrorist attacks on American soil and blame the Cubans for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods Another example from the same era was the second Gulf of Tonkin incident which lead to the Vietnam War. In the 2000's Robert McNamara finally admitted the second incident never happened.
- hannasanarion 7y agoAnd that makes it a dogwhistle how? The (((echo))) is a dogwhistle. "Globalists" is a dogwhistle. The USS Liberty incident is just another point on the miles-long list of war crimes committed by the Israeli military and pardoned by the American UNSC veto. The accusation of antisemitism whenever misbehavior from the Israeli government comes up is itself antisemitic because it presupposes that "the Republic of Israel" and "the Jews" are the same thing.
- slg 7y agoI didn't use the term dogwhistle. I didn't put forward any theory regarding what "actually" happened with the Liberty. I didn't accuse anyone of antisemitism. I am simply stating a fact that this is something that antisemitic people often point to as proof of the evilness and/or anti-American behavior of Jews. The actual facts of what happened are mostly irrelevant in regards to how the incident has been co-opted. >The accusation of antisemitism whenever misbehavior from the Israeli government comes up is itself antisemitic because it presupposes that "the Republic of Israel" and "the Jews" are the same thing. I believe this argument is pointless since people on all sides of this debate selectively draw and blur the line between Israel and Jews depending on what point they are trying to make.
- msla 7y agoIt was attacked by the Israelis, so it's used as a cause celebre by people who want to get people to question our support of Israel. This includes, but is not limited to, antisemites.
- PunksATawnyFill 7y ago“Dogwhistle?” English has plenty of words. Use some that convey something.