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Avengers: End Game is a prime example. Filmmakers have gotten too liberal with using deus ex machinas to push a story along. And even with these lazy devices, t

Avengers: End Game is a prime example. Filmmakers have gotten too liberal with using deus ex machinas to push a story along. And even with these lazy devices, these films are still riddled with plot holes and absurdity.

goatlover 7y ago
It's not like the source material in the comics is different. These are superhero stories with characters like Thor, the Guardians and the Incredible Hulk. Do you really think they won't be a bit absurd?
- doc_gunthrop 7y ago
  It's unreasonable to expect hard science in superhero comics and films, but if you pay attention you get a "are you kidding me with this b.s.?" type of reaction. Just take the opening scene in Endgame, for example. Tony Stark, stranded in space many light years from Earth, with mere minutes left of breathable oxygen. Captain Marvel conveniently appears out of nowhere and escorts him back to Earth and Tony makes a full recovery. That's lazy writing. How about how Tony Stark conveniently invents time travel? Another example of poor writing and lame plot devices to move the story along. The recent Stars Wars films are even worse.
  - goatlover 7y ago
    I agree with those examples and they annoyed me, but I think they were done to save time more than anything, which is a product of having to shove so much material into a movie that serves as a culmination for twenty-one other movies. Still, it's a fair criticism of superhero movies, and Star Wars.
    - Izkata 7y ago
      Not necessarily to save time, the first one was because Captain Marvel was a late entry and they had to shoehorn her into the plot somehow. All her appearances in that movie had an alternate and more cohesive way It could have went, such as Stark and Nebula finishing the rudimentary repairs they were seen doing and limping home on their own power. Time travel was also mentioned in the Ant-Man and the Wasp stinger, so it didn't completely come out of nowhere. Stark didn't invent it, he invented a navigation system.

goatlover 7y ago

It's not like the source material in the comics is different. These are superhero stories with characters like Thor, the Guardians and the Incredible Hulk. Do you really think they won't be a bit absurd?

doc_gunthrop 7y ago
It's unreasonable to expect hard science in superhero comics and films, but if you pay attention you get a "are you kidding me with this b.s.?" type of reaction. Just take the opening scene in Endgame, for example. Tony Stark, stranded in space many light years from Earth, with mere minutes left of breathable oxygen. Captain Marvel conveniently appears out of nowhere and escorts him back to Earth and Tony makes a full recovery. That's lazy writing. How about how Tony Stark conveniently invents time travel? Another example of poor writing and lame plot devices to move the story along. The recent Stars Wars films are even worse.
- goatlover 7y ago
  I agree with those examples and they annoyed me, but I think they were done to save time more than anything, which is a product of having to shove so much material into a movie that serves as a culmination for twenty-one other movies. Still, it's a fair criticism of superhero movies, and Star Wars.
  - Izkata 7y ago
    Not necessarily to save time, the first one was because Captain Marvel was a late entry and they had to shoehorn her into the plot somehow. All her appearances in that movie had an alternate and more cohesive way It could have went, such as Stark and Nebula finishing the rudimentary repairs they were seen doing and limping home on their own power. Time travel was also mentioned in the Ant-Man and the Wasp stinger, so it didn't completely come out of nowhere. Stark didn't invent it, he invented a navigation system.