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Alan Moore is a great writer, and he's also a self-important kook. There's no connection between the KKK and comic book heroes.

BurningFrog 7y ago
Right, the man sure knows how to turn a phrase! One of the best ever.
coldtea 7y ago
He's not saying there is a connection. He's saying that there are so many white heroes and the whole culture of the "super men" in comics, that they might as well have been the "Birth of a Nation". Nothing kooky about it.
- Doodood 7y ago
  >I would also remark that save for a smattering of non-white characters (and non-white creators) these books and these iconic characters are still very much white supremacist dreams of the master race. It is kooky, and ironic, to imply that people dream of racial genocide solely because of the color of their skin.
  - jrochkind1 7y ago
    What? What are you talking about, where did Moore or anyone in this thread do that? If you are trying to suggest that the movie Birth of the Nation glorifying the KKK, or the KKK itself, have nothing to do with white supremacy and racial genocide... then we're just done here.
  - coldtea 7y ago
    Master race != racial genocide. Master race could even have pity or compassion for the lesser race. The key differentiation is not that of genocide vs not genocide, is of imagining a superior set of people, vs not doing it. Super heroes are described as that superior set of people, more advanced than mere humans (stronger, smarter, genetically advanced in many cases, and more relevant to boot). Heck, even the name superhero/supermen etc alludes to Nietchtze's and the Nazis' Ubermench. They are also predominantly white, with good looks and physique. That's the very definition of a super race...
jrochkind1 7y ago
Just saying it isn't so isn't an argument. To be fair, Moore didn't really flesh out the argument either. But I definitely find it enticing. if you don't, that's fine.
- whylie 7y ago
  There is no need to argue that perspective, the burden of proof is on the accuser. With all the fabricated hate crimes lately it makes one wonder if the demand for hate is higher than the supply. Your perspective is bizarre and not so surprisingly in line with that.
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BurningFrog 7y ago

Right, the man sure knows how to turn a phrase! One of the best ever.

coldtea 7y ago

He's not saying there is a connection. He's saying that there are so many white heroes and the whole culture of the "super men" in comics, that they might as well have been the "Birth of a Nation". Nothing kooky about it.

Doodood 7y ago
>I would also remark that save for a smattering of non-white characters (and non-white creators) these books and these iconic characters are still very much white supremacist dreams of the master race. It is kooky, and ironic, to imply that people dream of racial genocide solely because of the color of their skin.
- jrochkind1 7y ago
  What? What are you talking about, where did Moore or anyone in this thread do that? If you are trying to suggest that the movie Birth of the Nation glorifying the KKK, or the KKK itself, have nothing to do with white supremacy and racial genocide... then we're just done here.
- coldtea 7y ago
  Master race != racial genocide. Master race could even have pity or compassion for the lesser race. The key differentiation is not that of genocide vs not genocide, is of imagining a superior set of people, vs not doing it. Super heroes are described as that superior set of people, more advanced than mere humans (stronger, smarter, genetically advanced in many cases, and more relevant to boot). Heck, even the name superhero/supermen etc alludes to Nietchtze's and the Nazis' Ubermench. They are also predominantly white, with good looks and physique. That's the very definition of a super race...

jrochkind1 7y ago

Just saying it isn't so isn't an argument. To be fair, Moore didn't really flesh out the argument either. But I definitely find it enticing. if you don't, that's fine.

whylie 7y ago
There is no need to argue that perspective, the burden of proof is on the accuser. With all the fabricated hate crimes lately it makes one wonder if the demand for hate is higher than the supply. Your perspective is bizarre and not so surprisingly in line with that.

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