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The teachers I know say there is almost no other way they are allowed to discipline children.
by trophycase 7y ago
The teachers I know say there is almost no other way they are allowed to discipline children.
- MaupitiBlue 7y agoIt’s almost as though the primary way the brains of every warm blooded animal evolved to receive discipline has been eschewed by polite society and problematic consequences ensued?
- nerdponx 7y agoWhat, hitting children? It doesn't seem to work. The only analogue in nature I can think of is violent competition among adult males.
- MaupitiBlue 7y agoNearly every animal with a brain has young that misbehave. Mama kangaroo, elephant, tiger, horse and chimp will put up with a certain amount of bad behavior, eg overagressive play or taking too much food, then they’ll grunt, then a growl, and then when bear cub keeps it up, Mama bear nips just hard enough to get them to stop and hopefully not do it again. We’ve abandoned something that’s been at the core of nurturing the young for 60,000,000 years. I would assume there’s been a fair amount of natural selection at work in a fundamental aspect of the parent-child relationship. I think choosing not to teach that “when I say stop, stop” without thinking that it will not work out for a meaningful fraction of the population, seems a bit like trying to figure out what the Boeing MCAS engineers were thinking.
- brazzy 7y agoOne word: Bullshit! You're making up a bullshit evo-psych narrative that has nothing whatsoever to do with reality. Abusing children (and yes, spanking is child abuse) is the exact opposite of "nurturing". And the claim that child abuse proponents like you love to make that the only alternative to child abuse is not setting any boundaries is just so much more transparent bullshit.
- MaupitiBlue 7y agoExplain how emotional manipulation is healthy and intrinsically superior?
- brazzy 7y agoI see what you're trying to do, but even at face value: emotional manipulation does not break the fundamental trust children have in their parents, and it does not teach the children that violence solves problem and might makes right.
- neonate 7y ago> emotional manipulation does not break the fundamental trust children have in their parents It certainly can. I'm not taking either side in this argument, but the claim here is overstated.
- brazzy 7y agoIt's almost as if you have no fucking clue about humans, animals, or evolution.
- perspective1 7y agoSounds like you only know teachers in Illinois.