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What amazes me is that Tik-Tok fills the void created when Twitter killed vine. Given the popularity of Vine, and the outrage when Twitter killed it, I have no

What amazes me is that Tik-Tok fills the void created when Twitter killed vine. Given the popularity of Vine, and the outrage when Twitter killed it, I have no idea why they thought it was a good move. I’m bullish on Tik-Tok because I think it’s the next logical evolution of social media (and totally captures the Vine fan base which was pretty big to begin with) First there was text, both Facebook and Twitter. Then images with instagram. Now people want videos that they can consume in short bits of time en mass. I think you would be amiss to not see TikTok as a potentially big player in social media in the future.

akhilcacharya 7y ago
I’ve been a user for a year now. It used to be that people watched it for the bad content - then intentionally bad content. The biggest TikTok compilations were “TikTok cringe”. But now...the content is actually good!
- koolhead17 7y ago
  TikTok is a soft porn dosage for newer/emerging internet users.
- xiphias2 7y ago
  Sounds like youtube. It took years for youtube to get from cat video quality to scientific / conference videos that often are better than books / text by the name people. I still don’t believe I would switch :)
JohnJamesRambo 7y ago
> First there was text, both Facebook and Twitter. Then images with instagram. Now people want videos that they can consume in short bits of time en mass. What you are describing is the continued fall to smaller and smaller bits of stimulation and information. I’m worried about the consequences of this on the human mind and humanity in general. Our tech is gradually eroding our ability to focus on anything for more than a few seconds. I don’t want a future that is some weird mix of Idiocracy and getting the Black Shakes from Johnny Mnemonic. We need people that aren’t easily manipulated by ads and disinformation campaigns and that can think long and clearly about something.
- RandallBrown 7y ago
  Videos encode way more information than a snippet of text. If anything, social media is moving the opposite way, where people are requiring more stimulation and information.
  - thawaway1837 7y ago
    I think it’s somewhere in between. More stimulation but less information.
  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    More information, at least in the information-theory sense, but much less knowledge. I.e. videos are much less efficient than text, or even static pictures. Take a second of the most insightful video you can find, and in the same space, you could easily cram an entire textbook on the same topic, complete with high-resolution images.
    - asdff 7y ago
      Just pulling a transcript of a given video, timing your reading, and comparing it to the length of the video would make this evident. And that's if the information delivery is perfectly optimized, which in most cases it's not. Compare 1hr of CNN to a 1hr college political science lecture, for example.
  - stjohnswarts 7y ago
    depends on the image and the text. teens dumping goo on their brother's head and then running away are essentially useless compared to a wiki paragraph on the holocaust.
  - randompi 7y ago
    > people are requiring more stimulation and information Perhaps I'm old, but TikTok failed to get me back over and over again.
- celim307 7y ago
  i cant speak for anyone else, but as a heavy vine/snapchat user, it scratches a specific itch for effortless entertainment in the same vein as leaving the tv on in the background. I still consume long form media as much as i used to. but my turn-my-brain-off outlet is different
pjc50 7y ago
Vine was unnecessarily wrecked by Twitter's poor stewardship, and a fatal dispute with the community of stars who produced its top content: https://www.mic.com/articles/157977/inside-the-secret-meeting-that-changed-the-fate-of-vine-forever https://www.mic.com/articles/157977/inside-the-secret-meetin... - pay creators - deal with harassment The two things, of course, that Twitter is totally incapable of doing. It's not clear how TikTok is responding to the same pressures.
ryuukk_ 7y ago
exactly, greed and suffisance is what's gonna kill USA's economy let the real war and chaos begin
faizshah 7y ago
New compilations of old Vines still get posted every day and rack up hundreds of thousands of views. It really was only a matter of time.
stjohnswarts 7y ago
It's more of an addition rather than evolution. Also it's relatively new to westerners so there's the "new fangled" part of it. I tried it (albeit a year ago) and all I saw were a bunch of teen agers acting goofy and not really doing much to further civilization. It's definitely social though.
subsaharancoder 7y ago
Now people want videos that they can consume in short bits of time en mass -> ergo SnapChat

akhilcacharya 7y ago

I’ve been a user for a year now. It used to be that people watched it for the bad content - then intentionally bad content. The biggest TikTok compilations were “TikTok cringe”. But now...the content is actually good!

koolhead17 7y ago
TikTok is a soft porn dosage for newer/emerging internet users.
xiphias2 7y ago
Sounds like youtube. It took years for youtube to get from cat video quality to scientific / conference videos that often are better than books / text by the name people. I still don’t believe I would switch :)

JohnJamesRambo 7y ago

> First there was text, both Facebook and Twitter. Then images with instagram. Now people want videos that they can consume in short bits of time en mass. What you are describing is the continued fall to smaller and smaller bits of stimulation and information. I’m worried about the consequences of this on the human mind and humanity in general. Our tech is gradually eroding our ability to focus on anything for more than a few seconds. I don’t want a future that is some weird mix of Idiocracy and getting the Black Shakes from Johnny Mnemonic. We need people that aren’t easily manipulated by ads and disinformation campaigns and that can think long and clearly about something.

RandallBrown 7y ago
Videos encode way more information than a snippet of text. If anything, social media is moving the opposite way, where people are requiring more stimulation and information.
- thawaway1837 7y ago
  I think it’s somewhere in between. More stimulation but less information.
- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  More information, at least in the information-theory sense, but much less knowledge. I.e. videos are much less efficient than text, or even static pictures. Take a second of the most insightful video you can find, and in the same space, you could easily cram an entire textbook on the same topic, complete with high-resolution images.
  - asdff 7y ago
    Just pulling a transcript of a given video, timing your reading, and comparing it to the length of the video would make this evident. And that's if the information delivery is perfectly optimized, which in most cases it's not. Compare 1hr of CNN to a 1hr college political science lecture, for example.
- stjohnswarts 7y ago
  depends on the image and the text. teens dumping goo on their brother's head and then running away are essentially useless compared to a wiki paragraph on the holocaust.
- randompi 7y ago
  > people are requiring more stimulation and information Perhaps I'm old, but TikTok failed to get me back over and over again.
celim307 7y ago
i cant speak for anyone else, but as a heavy vine/snapchat user, it scratches a specific itch for effortless entertainment in the same vein as leaving the tv on in the background. I still consume long form media as much as i used to. but my turn-my-brain-off outlet is different

pjc50 7y ago

Vine was unnecessarily wrecked by Twitter's poor stewardship, and a fatal dispute with the community of stars who produced its top content: https://www.mic.com/articles/157977/inside-the-secret-meeting-that-changed-the-fate-of-vine-forever https://www.mic.com/articles/157977/inside-the-secret-meetin... - pay creators - deal with harassment The two things, of course, that Twitter is totally incapable of doing. It's not clear how TikTok is responding to the same pressures.

ryuukk_ 7y ago

exactly, greed and suffisance is what's gonna kill USA's economy let the real war and chaos begin

faizshah 7y ago

New compilations of old Vines still get posted every day and rack up hundreds of thousands of views. It really was only a matter of time.

stjohnswarts 7y ago

It's more of an addition rather than evolution. Also it's relatively new to westerners so there's the "new fangled" part of it. I tried it (albeit a year ago) and all I saw were a bunch of teen agers acting goofy and not really doing much to further civilization. It's definitely social though.

subsaharancoder 7y ago

Now people want videos that they can consume in short bits of time en mass -> ergo SnapChat