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I had recently begun considering a smart watch to replace my original Pebble, and was considering Fitbit, but this is exactly why I won't be going with them. I'

by nkrisc 7y ago

I had recently begun considering a smart watch to replace my original Pebble, and was considering Fitbit, but this is exactly why I won't be going with them. I'm slowly De-Googling and spreading my digital life across multiple providers instead of being at the mercy of a single one. I don't expect my total privacy exposure will be significantly less, but it's more about not having my email, media purchases, phone integration, and more all tied to just Google.

cosmojg 7y ago
PINE64 is working on a privacy-respecting Linux smartwatch dubbed the PineTime: https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PineTime https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PineTime Once my Pebble Time dies, I think that's where I'm going.
- JohnFen 7y ago
  Yes, I'm very interested in this as well. My Pebble is still working fine, but the day will come when I need to replace it, and this is the only thing I've seen that looks like it might be able to do that. The page says that it's 5 years away from release, though.
  - comfydragon 7y ago
    Expected Release: Q1/Q2 2020, pending on development result I think the "Availability" note means how long they plan to support it and/or sell it.
    - JohnFen 7y ago
      Ah, thanks for the correction!
9dl 7y ago
What for you will use "smart watch"? For real. There is not so much they can do and even less they can do properly
- macintux 7y ago
  Not the OP, but my Apple Watch has changed my life. Being able to track, manage, and be challenged on my exercise habits has helped me lose 30 pounds in 7 months. Plus the convenience of knowing who’s calling without pulling my phone out, answer the call or text message directly from my Watch, check the temperature at a glance... And it’s pretty good at telling time, too.
  - 9dl 7y ago
    So just to be clear If someone wear 1-10-100 "smart devices" that someone do not loose weight You lost weight because you work hard, you eat smart and you change habits https://www.strongerbyscience.com/complete-guide-to-bar-speed-trackers/ https://www.strongerbyscience.com/complete-guide-to-bar-spee... About phone calls - I prefer do not answer at all. Better to recall or write message or mail About measurements - you really can't rely on any of wrist device sensors. They are not calibrated at all And even better. You body has so much more preciser sensors than any device. One device that can measure somewhat decent when you do exercises - chest strap monitor And I love tech a lot. But tech which can improve my or someones life
    - macintux 7y ago
      This reminds me of the discussion where someone asserted that because were capable of taking our own pulse there’s no advantage to a device that tracks it all the time. I’m not going to throw a chest sensor on every time I leave for lunch just in case I decide to jog there. Or when I get up from my desk to run up and down the stairs. Nor is a chest sensor going to remind me to stand up every hour. Or allow me to set a reminder to take a bag out of my car when I get home. Or tell me what song is playing. You’re welcome to choose not to use a smart watch, but to claim they can’t improve someone’s life is willful ignorance of the facts. They’ve already literally saved lives.
      - 9dl 7y ago
        >to a device that tracks it all the time There is the problem with hand devices and quality of measurements they do Article describe it more properly If you have heart problems and you need some measurements there are a lot of medical _calibrated_ devices for that There are 0 devices for that which has only hand wearable part Also consider such cases when such devices can do a lot of harm https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/28/fitness-tracking-app-gives-away-location-of-secret-us-army-bases https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/28/fitness-tracki... Any tech has pros and cons
pnw_hazor 7y ago
Dependency on Google is what I am trying to avoid. I have finally began moving off of gmail, once that is complete, I will be free. The reports of people being locked out of Google because of youtube comments was the last straw. The first straw, I guess, was when they bought Nest, I turned off my Nest cams right then and never looked back. edit: spelling

by nkrisc 7y ago

cosmojg 7y ago

PINE64 is working on a privacy-respecting Linux smartwatch dubbed the PineTime: https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PineTime https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PineTime Once my Pebble Time dies, I think that's where I'm going.

JohnFen 7y ago
Yes, I'm very interested in this as well. My Pebble is still working fine, but the day will come when I need to replace it, and this is the only thing I've seen that looks like it might be able to do that. The page says that it's 5 years away from release, though.
- comfydragon 7y ago
  Expected Release: Q1/Q2 2020, pending on development result I think the "Availability" note means how long they plan to support it and/or sell it.
  - JohnFen 7y ago
    Ah, thanks for the correction!

9dl 7y ago

What for you will use "smart watch"? For real. There is not so much they can do and even less they can do properly

macintux 7y ago
Not the OP, but my Apple Watch has changed my life. Being able to track, manage, and be challenged on my exercise habits has helped me lose 30 pounds in 7 months. Plus the convenience of knowing who’s calling without pulling my phone out, answer the call or text message directly from my Watch, check the temperature at a glance... And it’s pretty good at telling time, too.
- 9dl 7y ago
  So just to be clear If someone wear 1-10-100 "smart devices" that someone do not loose weight You lost weight because you work hard, you eat smart and you change habits https://www.strongerbyscience.com/complete-guide-to-bar-speed-trackers/ https://www.strongerbyscience.com/complete-guide-to-bar-spee... About phone calls - I prefer do not answer at all. Better to recall or write message or mail About measurements - you really can't rely on any of wrist device sensors. They are not calibrated at all And even better. You body has so much more preciser sensors than any device. One device that can measure somewhat decent when you do exercises - chest strap monitor And I love tech a lot. But tech which can improve my or someones life
  - macintux 7y ago
    This reminds me of the discussion where someone asserted that because were capable of taking our own pulse there’s no advantage to a device that tracks it all the time. I’m not going to throw a chest sensor on every time I leave for lunch just in case I decide to jog there. Or when I get up from my desk to run up and down the stairs. Nor is a chest sensor going to remind me to stand up every hour. Or allow me to set a reminder to take a bag out of my car when I get home. Or tell me what song is playing. You’re welcome to choose not to use a smart watch, but to claim they can’t improve someone’s life is willful ignorance of the facts. They’ve already literally saved lives.
    - 9dl 7y ago
      >to a device that tracks it all the time There is the problem with hand devices and quality of measurements they do Article describe it more properly If you have heart problems and you need some measurements there are a lot of medical _calibrated_ devices for that There are 0 devices for that which has only hand wearable part Also consider such cases when such devices can do a lot of harm https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/28/fitness-tracking-app-gives-away-location-of-secret-us-army-bases https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/28/fitness-tracki... Any tech has pros and cons

pnw_hazor 7y ago

Dependency on Google is what I am trying to avoid. I have finally began moving off of gmail, once that is complete, I will be free. The reports of people being locked out of Google because of youtube comments was the last straw. The first straw, I guess, was when they bought Nest, I turned off my Nest cams right then and never looked back. edit: spelling