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The problem I have with Stadia is that you need a monthly subscription and also need to pay full price for all games. Games that can't be sold on the second han

The problem I have with Stadia is that you need a monthly subscription and also need to pay full price for all games. Games that can't be sold on the second hand market, unlike the current console games. And at $129 it's not far off from the €200 I paid for my PS4 during Black Friday 2017. The TCO of the Stadia seems much higher than traditional consoles. The upside is using it on a mobile device but to me this doesn't add value, as the network connection outside my house is either a high-latency 3G connection or someone else's unreliable WiFi. And with Remote Play on the PS4 I have similar capabilities.

macspoofing 7y ago
>The problem I have with Stadia is that you need a monthly subscription and also need to pay full price for all games. Yes. The problem with Stadia is Google. Google hates hardware and they pretty much half-ass everything that is even an inch outside of their core competency. There is something exciting about cloud-gaming, even in the present state ... but to make it a success it would have required Google to make better deals with content providers (maybe turn it into a true Netflix-for-games), and potentially pour some significant resources to subsidize it. For example, they could make the controller/hardware really cheap, subsidize content-provider licenses (so games are available via an Xbox-pass type service, or are half the price of their PS4/Xbox counterparts), or, god-forbid, invest in first-party studios to create original games. But that's not the Google way.
- skinkestek 7y ago
  > The problem with Stadia is Google. Google hates hardware and they pretty much half-ass everything that is even an inch outside of their core competency. You make it sound like their core products are good. Search is worse than in 2009. Ads has been useless for me for years, even when I tried to help..! Anyone here who buys Google ads, expect to be fleeced for nothing: There exist ads I want (events, local) , but I never see them. On the contrary: for years I've seen irrelevant but probably very expensive ads that aren't even remotely interesting but rather insulting.
  - dariusj18 7y ago
    > Search is worse than in 2009 To be fair, the internet is worse as a whole. Google is at war with SEO and bad actors. This is not to reduce how bad/evil their ad model has become.
MrMember 7y ago
>The problem I have with Stadia is that you need a monthly subscription and also need to pay full price for all games. And I don't have any confidence in Stadia being around for the long term. If I buy a game on Steam I'm fairly confident I'll still be able to play it in a decade. If I bought a game on Stadia I wouldn't be confident in the service still existing two years from now.

macspoofing 7y ago

>The problem I have with Stadia is that you need a monthly subscription and also need to pay full price for all games. Yes. The problem with Stadia is Google. Google hates hardware and they pretty much half-ass everything that is even an inch outside of their core competency. There is something exciting about cloud-gaming, even in the present state ... but to make it a success it would have required Google to make better deals with content providers (maybe turn it into a true Netflix-for-games), and potentially pour some significant resources to subsidize it. For example, they could make the controller/hardware really cheap, subsidize content-provider licenses (so games are available via an Xbox-pass type service, or are half the price of their PS4/Xbox counterparts), or, god-forbid, invest in first-party studios to create original games. But that's not the Google way.

skinkestek 7y ago
> The problem with Stadia is Google. Google hates hardware and they pretty much half-ass everything that is even an inch outside of their core competency. You make it sound like their core products are good. Search is worse than in 2009. Ads has been useless for me for years, even when I tried to help..! Anyone here who buys Google ads, expect to be fleeced for nothing: There exist ads I want (events, local) , but I never see them. On the contrary: for years I've seen irrelevant but probably very expensive ads that aren't even remotely interesting but rather insulting.
- dariusj18 7y ago
  > Search is worse than in 2009 To be fair, the internet is worse as a whole. Google is at war with SEO and bad actors. This is not to reduce how bad/evil their ad model has become.

MrMember 7y ago

>The problem I have with Stadia is that you need a monthly subscription and also need to pay full price for all games. And I don't have any confidence in Stadia being around for the long term. If I buy a game on Steam I'm fairly confident I'll still be able to play it in a decade. If I bought a game on Stadia I wouldn't be confident in the service still existing two years from now.